Viewing things from a Manichean perspective isn't going to contribute to
constructive discussion of important issues on this list, but I'd love to
see your evidence that spousal hires have any impact whatsoever on "the
fruits of intellectual pursuit at Universities".  Please provide some data
to back up your claims, Aaron.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Aaron T. Dossey <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Maintaining the quality of one's marriage, personal life, sexual
> relationships, etc. is not an employer's, University's, Department's, the
> tax-payer's (for public institutions and those who receive government
> grants/funds) or even society's responsibility.   The stake holders here are
> not just that family and those they work with - the nation and world depend
> on the fruits of intellectual pursuit at Universities - science such as
> biomedical discoveries, engineering, education, etc.   The stakes are just
> too high to not pursue the highest germane standards based on emotional or
> nepotistic considerations.
>
>
> On 8/20/2011 10:05 AM, Gary Grossman wrote:
>
>> I hope that some day we have a society that values ecologists as much as
>> it
>> values medical doctors and that everyone has a job!
>>
>
> Only married ones, right? :)
>
> Aaron T. Dossey, Ph.D.
> Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> http://www.allthingsbugs.com/**Curriculum_Vitae.pdf<http://www.allthingsbugs.com/Curriculum_Vitae.pdf>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/20/2011 10:05 AM, Gary Grossman wrote:
>
>> As someone who
>> was hired in the pre-spousal hire era I've watched many marriages and
>> families dissolve under the pressure of jobs in separate cities, etc.
>>  I've
>> also seen faculty who spent a substantial amount of time interviewing at
>> other institutions, rather than focusing on teaching and research,
>>  because
>> no provision was made for their well qualified spouse.
>>
>
> On 8/20/2011 10:05 AM, Gary Grossman wrote:
>
>> Might a University be better off if
>> there was an open search (my guess is that at most universities the
>> spousal
>> hire isn't an open search) -- probably from the disciplinary point of view
>> but then from a personnel management and teaching point of view they get
>> much greater stability and dedication from "couple hires".
>>
>
>


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