On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 05:18:54PM +0300, Raag Jadav wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 04:09:20PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > On 09.07.25 15:41, Simona Vetter wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 04:50:13PM +0530, Riana Tauro wrote:
> > >> Certain errors can cause the device to be wedged and may
> > >> require a vendor specific recovery method to restore normal
> > >> operation.
> > >>
> > >> Add a recovery method 'WEDGED=vendor-specific' for such errors. Vendors
> > >> must provide additional recovery documentation if this method
> > >> is used.
> > >>
> > >> v2: fix documentation (Raag)
> > >>
> > >> Cc: André Almeida <andrealm...@igalia.com>
> > >> Cc: Christian König <christian.koe...@amd.com>
> > >> Cc: David Airlie <airl...@gmail.com>
> > >> Cc: <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
> > >> Suggested-by: Raag Jadav <raag.ja...@intel.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Riana Tauro <riana.ta...@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > I'm not really understanding what this is useful for, maybe concrete
> > > example in the form of driver code that uses this, and some tool or
> > > documentation steps that should be taken for recovery?

The case here is when FW underneath identified something badly corrupted on
FW land and decided that only a firmware-flashing could solve the day and
raise interrupt to the driver. At that point we want to wedge, but immediately
hint the admin the recommended action.

> > 
> > The recovery method for this particular case is to flash in a new firmware.
> > 
> > > The issues I'm seeing here is that eventually we'll get different
> > > vendor-specific recovery steps, and maybe even on the same device, and
> > > that leads us to an enumeration issue. Since it's just a string and an
> > > enum I think it'd be better to just allocate a new one every time there's
> > > a new strange recovery method instead of this opaque approach.
> > 
> > That is exactly the opposite of what we discussed so far.
> > 
> > The original idea was to add a firmware-flush recovery method which looked 
> > a bit wage since it didn't give any information on what to do exactly.
> > 
> > That's why I suggested to add a more generic vendor-specific event with 
> > refers to the documentation and system log to see what actually needs to be 
> > done.
> > 
> > Otherwise we would end up with events like firmware-flash, update FW image 
> > A, update FW image B, FW version mismatch etc....
> 
> Agree. Any newly allocated method that is specific to a vendor is going to
> be opaque anyway, since it can't be generic for all drivers. This just helps
> reduce the noise in DRM core.
> 
> And yes, there could be different vendor-specific cases for the same driver
> and the driver should be able to provide the means to distinguish between
> them.

Sim, what's your take on this then?

Should we get back to the original idea of firmware-flash?

> 
> Raag
> 
> > >> ---
> > >>  Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst | 9 +++++----
> > >>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c      | 2 ++
> > >>  include/drm/drm_device.h       | 4 ++++
> > >>  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst 
> > >> b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> index 263e5a97c080..c33070bdb347 100644
> > >> --- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> > >> @@ -421,10 +421,10 @@ Recovery
> > >>  Current implementation defines three recovery methods, out of which, 
> > >> drivers
> > >>  can use any one, multiple or none. Method(s) of choice will be sent in 
> > >> the
> > >>  uevent environment as ``WEDGED=<method1>[,..,<methodN>]`` in order of 
> > >> less to
> > >> -more side-effects. If driver is unsure about recovery or method is 
> > >> unknown
> > >> -(like soft/hard system reboot, firmware flashing, physical device 
> > >> replacement
> > >> -or any other procedure which can't be attempted on the fly), 
> > >> ``WEDGED=unknown``
> > >> -will be sent instead.
> > >> +more side-effects. If recovery method is specific to vendor
> > >> +``WEDGED=vendor-specific`` will be sent and userspace should refer to 
> > >> vendor
> > >> +specific documentation for further recovery steps. If driver is unsure 
> > >> about
> > >> +recovery or method is unknown, ``WEDGED=unknown`` will be sent instead
> > >>  
> > >>  Userspace consumers can parse this event and attempt recovery as per the
> > >>  following expectations.
> > >> @@ -435,6 +435,7 @@ following expectations.
> > >>      none            optional telemetry collection
> > >>      rebind          unbind + bind driver
> > >>      bus-reset       unbind + bus reset/re-enumeration + bind
> > >> +    vendor-specific vendor specific recovery method
> > >>      unknown         consumer policy
> > >>      =============== ========================================
> > >>  
> > >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> index cdd591b11488..0ac723a46a91 100644
> > >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c
> > >> @@ -532,6 +532,8 @@ static const char *drm_get_wedge_recovery(unsigned 
> > >> int opt)
> > >>                  return "rebind";
> > >>          case DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_BUS_RESET:
> > >>                  return "bus-reset";
> > >> +        case DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_VENDOR:
> > >> +                return "vendor-specific";
> > >>          default:
> > >>                  return NULL;
> > >>          }
> > >> diff --git a/include/drm/drm_device.h b/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> index 08b3b2467c4c..08a087f149ff 100644
> > >> --- a/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> +++ b/include/drm/drm_device.h
> > >> @@ -26,10 +26,14 @@ struct pci_controller;
> > >>   * Recovery methods for wedged device in order of less to more 
> > >> side-effects.
> > >>   * To be used with drm_dev_wedged_event() as recovery @method. Callers 
> > >> can
> > >>   * use any one, multiple (or'd) or none depending on their needs.
> > >> + *
> > >> + * Refer to "Device Wedging" chapter in Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst 
> > >> for more
> > >> + * details.
> > >>   */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_NONE         BIT(0)  /* optional telemetry 
> > >> collection */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_REBIND       BIT(1)  /* unbind + bind driver 
> > >> */
> > >>  #define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_BUS_RESET    BIT(2)  /* unbind + reset bus 
> > >> device + bind */
> > >> +#define DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_VENDOR       BIT(3)  /* vendor specific 
> > >> recovery method */
> > >>  
> > >>  /**
> > >>   * struct drm_wedge_task_info - information about the guilty task of a 
> > >> wedge dev
> > >> -- 
> > >> 2.47.1
> > >>
> > > 
> > 

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