On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 06:59:56PM +0300, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 07:07:06PM +0300, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:33:03AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Pasi K?rkk?inen <pasik at iki.fi> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:00:44AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I just tried with Ubuntu 10.04 (kernel 2.6.32) and it fails in a 
> > > >> >> > similar way than F13 (kernel 2.6.33) does.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > To summarize:
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ?- Booting the laptop in the dock, both the internal laptop 
> > > >> >> > display and the external DVI display connected,
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ? ?shows the beginning of the boot process on the internal 
> > > >> >> > display and then both displays go blank.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ?- Booting the laptop in the dock, internal display in use 
> > > >> >> > and the external display powered *off*,
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ? ?shows the kernel boot process on the internal display 
> > > >> >> > but when GDM should show up the internal display goes blank.
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ? ?Nothing on the external display either (if I power it 
> > > >> >> > on).
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ?- Booting the laptop without the dock (and without the 
> > > >> >> > external display) works OK, I can see kernel boot process and 
> > > >> >> > GDM/X just OK.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ?- Booting the laptop without the dock, and attaching it to 
> > > >> >> > the dock after X is running allows me to use (=enable) the 
> > > >> >> > external display once.
> > > >> >> > ? ? ? ? ?But Gnome Monitor application shows the external display 
> > > >> >> > twice (as two devices)..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Does it work if you boot with the laptop in the dock and then after 
> > > >> >> it
> > > >> >> boots attach the external monitor and enable it? ?Do things work any
> > > >> >> better if you use xrandr rather than the gnome displays tool?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I just shutdown the laptop, connected it to the dock,
> > > >> > disconnected the DVI cable from the dock, and then powered on the 
> > > >> > laptop.
> > > >> > Now the boot process was OK using the laptop internal display.. gdm 
> > > >> > and X
> > > >> > showed up on the internal display OK.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > When I was in X I connected the DVI cable to the dock, and went to 
> > > >> > gnome
> > > >> > Monitors application. Same thing - the external display is shown as
> > > >> > two separate devices. Although they don't work - no matter which one
> > > >> > of the external displays I choose I don't get picture on the 
> > > >> > external DVI display.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I also tried with xrandr:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > $ xrandr
> > > >> > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 8192 x 8192
> > > >> > VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > > >> > LVDS connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
> > > >> > axis) 0mm x 0mm
> > > >> > ? 1680x1050 ? ? ?60.0*+
> > > >> > ? 1400x1050 ? ? ?60.0 ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 1280x1024 ? ? ?59.9 ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 1440x900 ? ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1280x960 ? ? ? 60.0 ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1280x854 ? ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1280x800 ? ? ? 59.8
> > > >> > ? 1280x720 ? ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1152x768 ? ? ? 59.8
> > > >> > ? 1024x768 ? ? ? 60.0 ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 800x600 ? ? ? ?60.3 ? ? 59.9 ? ? 56.2
> > > >> > ? 848x480 ? ? ? ?59.7
> > > >> > ? 720x480 ? ? ? ?59.7
> > > >> > ? 640x480 ? ? ? ?59.9 ? ? 59.4
> > > >> > DVI-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > > >> > ? 1920x1080 ? ? ?59.9 +
> > > >> > ? 1600x1200 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1680x1050 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1280x1024 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1440x900 ? ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1280x960 ? ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 1280x800 ? ? ? 59.8
> > > >> > ? 1024x768 ? ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 800x600 ? ? ? ?60.3 ? ? 56.2
> > > >> > ? 640x480 ? ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > HDMI-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> > > >> > ? 1920x1080 ? ? ?59.9 +
> > > >> > ? 1600x1200 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1680x1050 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1280x1024 ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> > ? 1440x900 ? ? ? 59.9
> > > >> > ? 1280x960 ? ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 1280x800 ? ? ? 59.8
> > > >> > ? 1024x768 ? ? ? 60.0
> > > >> > ? 800x600 ? ? ? ?60.3 ? ? 56.2
> > > >> > ? 640x480 ? ? ? ?60.0
> > > >> >
> > > >> > $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --right-of LVDS
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Didn't make a difference.. no picture on the external DVI display.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I wonder if that HDMI-0 is the key to the problem.. I don't have 
> > > >> > anything connected
> > > >> > to the HDMI connector on the laptop. There's no HDMI connector on 
> > > >> > the dock, it's only in the laptop.
> > > >>
> > > >> Indeed that is the problem. ?On your system the HDMI and DVI ports
> > > >> share the same encoder and DDC line so they will both come up as
> > > >> connected since the line is shared. ?The driver used to check the edid
> > > >> when the lines where shared and select HDMI or DVI based on the EDID,
> > > >> but perhaps that got broken at some point.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Makes sense. Does some kernel option/parameter affect that?
> > > 
> > > No.  I'll check the code and see if I can figure out what's going on.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, thanks!
> > 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'll be near the dock tomorrow.. So if you have a chance of looking at this, 
> and want me to test something,
> I could do it on thursday/friday.
> 

I just tried the latest Fedora 13 kernel (2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64) and the 
latest 
Fedora development (rawhide 2.6.34-43.fc14.x86_64) kernel, but the behaviour 
was the same.

Connecting display to the DVI connector makes the HDMI connector also show the 
same display, 
breaking things..

-- Pasi

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