Am 14.01.2015 um 02:23 schrieb Robert Blayzor:
On Jan 13, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:

and what would that change?
nothing if you think about how mail works!

* the MTA receives the message
* the MTA confirms with 2xx status code
* later the delivery server rejects
* the MTA *must* create a bounce

just don't reject mails after you confirmed you have received them in the SMTP 
session and if you don't want a mail after that DISCARD it by consider legal 
implications - there is nothing between


The above is not entirely true.  You are assuming that your MTA it's sending a 
2xx accepting the message immediately before delivery via LMTP completes.  With 
PRDR (in Exim for example, or without) a 5xx during the LMTP transport should 
issue a 5xx error back to the sending MTA, not a 2xx.  Therefore, there would 
be no NDR generated by the receiving system.  The senders MTA would have to 
generate the NDR, but that's not my problem at that point.  Of course WITHOUT 
PRDR this is a little bit more of an issue since it would be a rejection for 
all recipients of the message.

i assume a sane MTA like postfix with a queue and so be able to receive and confirm messages independent of the final destination - even if you use typically LMTP there could be an external transport for a RCPT and the same message can have internal and external destinations

so what you want in your OP is just DISCARD in a sieve script and there is no point in "Using Dovecot LMTP it would be more optimal to kick a 5xx back" when the desired result is DISCARD

why do you want the burden of keep the SMTP session with the client open until the mail is finally stored? that don't scale!

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