On 2012-01-05 11:21 AM, Willie Gillespie <wgilles...@es2eng.com> wrote:
If the phone knows the password and I have the phone, then I have the
password. Similarly, if I compromise the workstation that knows the
password, then I also have the password.

Interesting... I thought they were stored encrypted. I definitely use a (strong) Master Password in Thunderbird to protect the passwords, so it would take some doing on the workstations.

Even if the user doesn't know the password, the phone/workstation does.
And it has to be stored in a retrievable way.

Yes, if an attacker has unfettered physical access to the workstation/phone, it can be compromised...

That's what he's trying to say when he was talking about a "$400 post-it
note."

Got it...

As I said, there is no perfect system... but ours has worked well in the 11+ years we've been doing it this way.

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Best regards,

Charles

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