Hi Tobias! On Friday, March 7, 2025 10:53:43 AM CET Tobias Fiebig wrote: > Btw, does somebody know someone working for LGI/Liberty > Global? Fixing their fragment dropping would make a lot of things a lot > better in those stats.
[red.] > https://rincewind.home.aperture-labs.org/~tfiebig/mtu/frag-drop-nl.png > > Listing this by AS, it is clear that LGI/AS33915 is the main culprit > here, providing Internet for a large portion of people in the > Netherlands via its subsidiary Ziggo. However, this aggregation > approach highly skews the country stats; We have to convince one > operator to properly handle fragments, not half a country. Yesterday I went to the Netherlands, and stumbled upon a Vodafone/Ziggo establishment. After considering its usefulness for a while, I went inside and talked to some of its clerks. The first employee I spoke to said that he was only working there for 2 days so far, and that he did not feel qualified to comment on this email. The second employee I spoke to, took me to the back of the store, and asked about the credentials of both myself, you, and the IETF. I showed him this email, and explained to him my relationship to the IETF. That we are in charge of making the standards of the Internet, and that we participate as individual volunteers (be it on corporate payroll and identity, or otherwise). Being very focused on traditional corporate hierarchy and uninterested in the technical bits, I could not convince him to divulge a technical contact to forward this discussion to. Additionally, I told him about Liberty Global, and Ziggo's relationship towards them as their parent company. He did not acknowledge that, only accepting that for their sibling company Vodafone. Clearly being in the wrong place at the wrong level, eventually I just left. If there is someone that's known in Liberty Global or Ziggo's technical department, I'd also like to know. > Furthermore, this pattern continues across countries: > > For PL, IE, SK, the root cause is AS6830 (LGI). > For CH, the root cause is AS6730 (Sunrise, behind LGI). > For BE, the root cause is AS6848 (Telenet BV, behind LGI). > ... Being Belgian, Telenet is another organization that I could try to get a foothold in, this time hopefully with a few more insiders. I do know a couple of people there, and I'll try to reach out to them. I suppose the purpose of this email is to emphasize the importance of insiders here. The boots on the ground are useful for sure, but clearly not the target here. Additionally, I wouldn't mind coordinating this further in private, or even in person. While IETF 122 in Bangkok is a steep threshold for me, the general region of Central Europe is not. So if it would be useful to meet up somewhere in the Netherlands, sure! -- Met vriendelijke groet, Michael De Roover Mail: i...@nixmagic.com Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list -- dnsop@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to dnsop-le...@ietf.org
