On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 9:13 AM Edward Lewis <edward.le...@icann.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:58 AM Edward Lewis <edward.le...@icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> >You've probably stumbled across Cloudflare's differential behavior for
> DO=0 vs
>
> >DO=1 queries. With non-DNSSEC queries it provides a vanilla, unsigned
>
> >NXDOMAIN response. With DNSSEC enabled queries, it provides the
>
> >Compact Answer NODATA response.
>
>
>
> Stumbled isn’t the right word - I purposely went looking for it, found it
> as had I expected.  This is what was “feared” in the section in “Protocol
> Modifications for the DNS Security Extensions” titled “Including NSEC RRs
> in a Zone“ [a.k.a. RFC 4035, 2.3] - the divergence of the unsecured and
> secured view of a zone.
>

Ah, I stand corrected on "stumbling" :)

Note however that Cloudflare quite deliberately implemented this
differential behavior (to preserve NXDOMAIN visibility for pre DNSSEC
clients I suspect). Some other implementations of Compact DoE return a
uniform (NOERROR) RCODE for either case. So, I do not think this is a
result of divergence in the contents of the signed vs unsigned zone.

Shumon.
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