Hi Ulrich,

On Feb 25, 2021, at 06:53, Ulrich Wisser <ulrich=40wisser...@dmarc.ietf.org> 
wrote:

> But this is a real world problem, one that is holding DNSSEC back.
> If you buy DNS operations the operator will usually tell you what algorithm 
> they use, you have no choice in that.

This feels like one of those areas where more specificity is needed. "DNS 
operations" is is over-broad; what you mean, I think, is "if you outsource 
zone-signing". If you sign yourself and distribute your zone to external DNS 
operators then you can add and drop vendors without worrying about key 
rollovers, for example.

> Now if your new operator doesn’t use the same algorithm you can’t switch 
> without going insecure.
> I don’t think this is an acceptable situation.

I agree that this is a factor that ought to be included in the process of 
deciding to move vendors. If your proposed new vendor can't do what you want, 
then presumably you don't move there. While it's always possible to make 
mistakes, it's not at all clear to me that particular problem is something that 
needs protocol-level mitigations.

DNSSEC is normally part of a layered set of defences. In such an architecture 
relaxing one layer for a period in order to fix a problem or avoid a more 
complicated transition can be a perfectly acceptable answer. Going insecure for 
a short period in that context is not necessarily a cop-out; it could well be 
smart thinking.


Joe
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