All,
I am saying this with my dprive WG chair hat on...
As Eliot points out, this conversation has deteriorated beyond
repair. I will now politely ask that these non-technical discussions
cease on the dprive mailing list. I would recommend that everyone
document their concerns with DoH and bring them to the side meeting
being proposed by Stephane.Regards, Brian On 3/13/19 1:04 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: > Gentlemen, > > This conversation has gone to the zoo. What is or is not political doesn’t > matter at this stage in the game, and neither is arguing over rights over > bits. If people want to do that I suggest doing so in the HRPC WG and with a > draft in hand. Flaming back and forth without an objective of actually > modifying text or developing a work proposal is quite pointless. > > What is important is to document the technical ramifications of the changes > brought about by DoH. To move things forward, can we simply go through the > drafts in the side meeting, and indicate what administrators might do about > any perceived negative effects? Whether those effects seem negative to you > only matters if there is a proposal for the IETF to take on new work to > “correct” them. > > Eliot > >> On 13 Mar 2019, at 03:59, Christian Huitema <huit...@huitema.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/12/2019 2:11 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: >>>> I don't see why, based on your argument, your concerns >>>> trump his. >>>> >>>> Can you explain? >>> he's trying to achieve a political aim using technology. that is not the >>> purpose for which the internet engineering task force, or the internet >>> itself, >>> was convened. it is not why our employers pay our travel costs. and it is >>> not >>> why the rest of the world trusts our outputs. >> >> Sorry, but no. I am vying for network transparency, and I believe that if >> filtering is to be enforced, it should be controlled by the user. You are >> claiming that safety mandates giving the network operator full control over >> name resolution. Both of these positions come from specific visions about >> how the network should work. Neither is more a political goal than the other. >> >> -- Christian Huitema >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Doh mailing list >> d...@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/doh > > > > _______________________________________________ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-priv...@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-privacy >
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