On Wednesday, 13 March 2019 02:59:07 UTC Christian Huitema wrote: > On 3/12/2019 2:11 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: > >> I don't see why, based on your argument, your concerns > >> trump his. > >> > >> Can you explain? > > > > he's trying to achieve a political aim using technology. that is not the > > purpose for which the internet engineering task force, or the internet > > itself, was convened. it is not why our employers pay our travel costs. > > and it is not why the rest of the world trusts our outputs. > > Sorry, but no. I am vying for network transparency, ...
sir, that is a political position. > and I believe that > if filtering is to be enforced, it should be controlled by the user. sir, that is a political position. > You > are claiming that safety mandates giving the network operator full > control over name resolution. ... i am speaking not of the platonic perfect form of safety, of which any particular kind of safety is a mere imperfect reflection, but rather of a *very* particular kind of safety, that of the networks i operate. it is for me, and me alone, which is to say not for you, to say what kind of safety my network needs, or should have, or will have. > Both of these positions come from specific > visions about how the network should work. Neither is more a political > goal than the other. your stated goals are entirely political, resting in no way on economics, psychology, science, metaphysics, epistemology, or even engineering. vixie _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop