On 4/23/18, 10:23, "DNSOP on behalf of Shane Kerr" <dnsop-boun...@ietf.org on 
behalf of sh...@time-travellers.org> wrote:

>    I don't know if this is documented anywhere so that it can be
>    referenced properly, sorry. I am happy to discuss further but I think
>    this basically covers all I know. I don't mind proposing text, but
>    probably someone (Ed maybe?) would be a better person.

I've been looking for something I recall writing a long time ago, but haven't 
found it.  I'm not the authority on lameness (insert self-deprecating joke 
here), the term has been repeatedly defined in a number of documents.  What I 
wrote was a survey of them, including the citations, but I haven't been able to 
find it.  Not on the web, that is.

The reason I bother with this was, when I was tasked with the work in 2002 or 
2003, I was genuinely surprised at the definition of "lame" delegation.  I was 
surprised that it did not include non-responsive servers - the term referred to 
responding servers only.

If I can't find the text soon, I'll try to recreate the list of references at 
least.

(Only if you like reading history:)

The reason was a flaw in "certain old resolvers" that followed the "upwards 
referral" to the root that the "predominate server code of the time" had 
decided to use for lameness.  The result was a lot of resolver stuck in an 
infinite loop, hitting the root servers.  I.e., this was an operational issue.  
The solution was updating and redeploying the buggy code, not stamping out lame 
servers (which was the goal of the task).  FWIW, the "upwards referrals" were 
discontinued when it became apparent they were being used in noticeable 
amplification attacks.


 

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