On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Ted Lemon wrote:

Embedded systems of this sort need to have a management process so that
that can be updated. This is needed for more reasons than DNSSEC. Putting a
ten year old device on a network without upgrading the firmware is
irresponsible.

We have been discussing zerotouch (ie 0 day no-human-intervention plugin of device). This includes the device configuring itself by means of different methods, and also software-updating itself before it starts to provide any services.

DNSSEC (possibly DANE) has been proposed to be one way of finding this configuration. This is now obviously out of the question unless the problem I described can be solved.

So this all boils down to:

Do the people involved in DNSSEC want their protocol to be part of the long term solution of securing boostrapping things? Yes? No?

Right now the answer is no. 9 months shelf life and then DNSSEC fails is just not usable for things that don't have active human intervention in its configuration and setup.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swm...@swm.pp.se

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