Actually, DownRef won't  cut it as far as I can tell.

The two documents are not stable.  As a github reference, they are simply "the 
most current version of foo".

What the onion folks said to me was that they were working on creating stable, 
referenceable documents that explained how this should work.  I understand 
there is a time problem due to the certificate.  As a reviewer, I don't see how 
you can register without a stable reference for the meaning of the registration.

Yours,
Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Haberman [mailto:br...@innovationslab.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:32 AM
To: Jari Arkko; The IESG
Cc: tjw.i...@gmail.com; dnsop-cha...@ietf.org; 
draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-...@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; 
draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld...@ietf.org; 
draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld.sheph...@ietf.org; Joel Halpern
Subject: Re: Jari Arkko's No Record on draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00: (with 
COMMENT)

Hi Jari,

On 9/2/15 4:09 PM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Jari Arkko has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00: No Record
> 
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> COMMENT:
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> 
> The two last references need to be normative ones, I believe. I would 
> like to suggest a note to the IETF list (if not already happened) that 
> this is being changed (alongside with any down ref implications) and 
> only then approving the document.
> 

*If* we make this change (I am not sure we need to), I don't think there are 
any down ref implications.  The two Tor documents do not have any track 
associated with them.

Brian


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