> On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:11 PM, joel jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote: > > On 8/31/15 1:04 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > >> I agree with Alvaro and Stephen's comments. In particular, to my eye >> [tor-rendezvous] should be a normative reference given item #3 in Section >> 2. However, it seems more important to publish this document than to >> re-issue the last call to call out a new downref. > > I'm not sure that I agree that this would require a downref were it > cited normatively. the citation is to a document maintained by the third > party not to a informational draft describing the specification that is > maintained by the third party. the tor project protocol specific meets > some reasonable definitions of an open standard.
Fair enough. I mentioned this only because I explicitly do not think this document needs to be last-called again. > > That said this document is not a protocol specification, it is a > resource reservation which was my rational for allowing this to be > treated this as informational references. The requirement to specify dns > protocol behavior with respect to a resource is a requirement of the > 6761 resource reservation and it might well be a reason to cite that > (which is cited already) but the current reference is essentially to the > expectations of the protocol (tor) whereas the requirement is imposed on > non(tor protocol) actors by the 6761 reservation. Hmm, this sounds a little like wanting to have it both ways. I understand where the language came from, but the upshot of it is an implementation requirement on resolvers. I mean, if one way of meeting the MUST requirement is to implement what is specified in [tor-rendezvous], doesn’t that make [tor-rendezvous] precisely meet the definition of a normative reference? On the other hand, I don’t see anything in 6761 that says the answers to the questions need to be normatively specified. So maybe the text for #3 would make more sense if it is said "Resolvers that do not respond to requests for .onion names by resolving them according to [tor-rendezvous] MUST respond with NXDOMAIN.” Alissa > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> DNSOP mailing list >> DNSOP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >> > > _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop