Five years is not enough.  Think in terms of 20 to 50 years.

On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:10 PM, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

>>> I believe that the registry we have currently defined doesn't do a great 
>>> job of capturing the actual needs here. 
> 
> Agreed.  It seems to me that there are two somewhat separate things going on 
> here.
> 
> One is the .ONION issue.  It's a domain name string that has a
> coordinated use that is implemented outside the RFC 1034/1035 DNS.
> 
> The other is the .BELKIN and .CORP issue.  They're domain name strings
> that have no coordinated use, but there's enough uncoordinated use
> that there'd be a stability risk if a live TLD started answering
> queries.
> 
> In both cases, one question is when we reserve the name, and the other equally
> important question is when we un-reserve the name.
> 
> For all three, I think there's adequate evidence to reserve them now.
> The un-reserve criteria is different, and I expect would be different
> for any other name we reserved.  For .onion, it's not out of the
> question that five or ten years from now we check in with the ToR
> project and they say oh, the whole reserved name thing was such a hassle
> that we switched to onion:// names and we don't use domain names at all.
> 
> For .BELKIN, the problem was a lot of home routers shipped a decade
> ago.  Eventually most of them will die and the problem will go away.
> Or if the Belkin company wanted a vanity domain, they presumably know
> what the routers did and could come up with a TLD that avoided sending
> unfortunate responses to the old queries.
> 
> For .CORP, I gather the main usage was for intranet TLS certificates,
> but the public CAs have stopped signing them so they will probably
> mostly go away, too.
> 
> The point of these examples is not that we need to solve any of those
> issues now, but that a useful reserved name registry needs to deal with
> the reality that most reservations need not be forever.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
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