On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Matthijs Mekking <matth...@pletterpet.nl> wrote:
> Actually I think $DEFAULT_TTL should be in Zones too as it only exists
> in zone files.

This does not seem to be a commonly used term, does it?

>>> Should we also define zone enumeration?
>> 
>> Only if we agree on a definition. Proposal?
> 
> Perhaps we can quote RFC5155 here:
> 
>   Zone enumeration is enabled by the set of NSEC records that exists
>   inside a signed zone.  An NSEC record lists two names that are
>   ordered canonically, in order to show that nothing exists between the
>   two names.  The complete set of NSEC records lists all the names in a
>   zone.  It is trivial to enumerate the content of a zone by querying
>   for names that do not exist.

Yeah, I realized that after I sent the message last night, and already put it 
in the pre-draft. I tweaked a bit because we have definitions for NSEC and 
NSEC3 as well, and now the considerations from NSEC5.


>>> On page 13 KSK and ZSK are described. There is also a notion of a
>>> Combined Signing Key (CSK) [1]. In RFC 6781 this is called a
>>> Single-Type Signing Scheme: "In cases where the differentiation
>>> between the KSK and ZSK is not made, i.e., where keys have the role
>>> of both KSK and ZSK, we talk about a Single-Type Signing Scheme."
>>> Would it be worth to add this term to this document?
>> 
>> That seems to be a very new term, maybe premature for this document.
> 
> I disagree: We have been talking about this in DNSOP for years, also
> referred to as Combined Signing Key (CSK).

The term "combined signing key" doesn't appear in any RFC, and "CSK" only 
appears once, in RFC 5155 as part of a octet string. :-)

> I think it is important that people who read this terminology realize
> that a key can be a KSK and ZSK at the same time.

Fully agree.

> Think of a key as an
> actor and Key-signing and Zone-signing as roles: An actor can have
> multiple roles.
> 
> I can be talked into not adding this term to this document but then I
> would like to see one additional line, something like:
> 
>    The roles KSK and ZSK are not mutually exclusive: A single key
>    can be both KSK and ZSK at the same time.

That seems fine. If either CSK or Single-Type Signing Scheme become more common 
terms, we can add them to an updated RFC.

--Paul Hoffman
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