> but until verisign chooses a license regime for this patent, we won't know 
> how to respond. it is this working group's cultural bias to avoid IPR, which 
> means that if verisign doesn't self-declare the "royalty-free" option, IETF 
> will have to engage lawyers and experts to determine whether this draft will 
> have to be modified to avoid verisign's asserted rights. having verisign make 
> the first move would save us all a lot of time and money. so this statement:
> 
>> Due to the early state of the internet-draft, coverage of the claims versus 
>> existing text is difficult to ascertain, a licensing declaration to be 
>> provided later, if required ... 
> 
> is one i hope your team will vacate, and do the necessary research to 
> determine what your license regime would be with respect to the 
> kumari/hoffman draft as currently written.
> 

The same has happened with the IPSec patent from versign. Obvious prior art and 
the same unclear license policy. I got scolded at by versign representatives at 
one of the last ietfs for pointing this out. I wonder how we as a community 
need to act on this continued counter-productive behaviour.

Paul
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