On 29 Jan, 2014, at 07:47, Ralf Weber <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote:

> Where shall this stop? How about .LOKALESNETZWERK (german for .LAN). How many 
> domains do we want to treat special? I know this draft only asks for 8, but 
> some of them are on ICANNs application list.

Currently, with no established procedure for local-use names, the result is 
chaos. Since no DNS equivalent to RFC 1918 exists, people use whatever name 
they feel like. My hope is that if people are offered a short list of 
legitimate pseudo-TLDs for local-use names, the temptation to use some other 
TLD not on that list will be less. Today all NAT gateways I know of default to 
one of the RFC 1918 address ranges. If RFC 1918 did not exist, would NAT 
gateways not exist, or would they just hijack who-knows-what addresses? I 
suspect the latter.

If we acknowledge and document the reality, the IETF can have a role in guiding 
it in a sane direction. If we pretend local-use names don’t exist, then the 
IETF has less relevance in the real world and the real world carries on without 
us.

> I also don't think there are risks in delegation these other than the 
> applicants will get lots of traffic.

No, the risk is that the applicants *won’t* get the traffic they want, because 
some user’s local DNS is answering those queries.

If we have *some* pseudo-TLDs reserved for local-use names, there’s a stronger 
argument that local hijacking of other names is illegitimate.

And yes, if you want .LOKALESNETZWERK, then argue for that. Let’s use this IETF 
discussion process to get some clarity on which names are local-use and which 
ones are not.

Stuart Cheshire

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