In message <acf06352-98e5-4368-a8c9-5ab50783c...@hopcount.ca>, Joe Abley writes: > > On 2014-02-03, at 11:15, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoff...@vpnc.org> wrote: > > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzme...@nic.fr> > wrote: > > > >> "squatted" is not a bad word here. In the physical world, squatters > >> are often people who do not have the money to rent a home, because > >> some rich people put the price of the housing too high. Here, you will > >> have trouble convincing the users of Tor or Namecoin that it is right > >> to pay 185 000 $ for a TLD and that, if they cannot afford it, they > >> have to stay in the slums. > >> > >> [End of political rant, sorry] > > > > Your political rant is, however, off-base. Assume for the moment that > > the Tor folks had registered oniontld.fr for a relatively small amount of > > money. It could have all of the attributes of .onion: you could hard-wire > > it into local resolvers, some requests for it would leak to the DNS and > > therefore possibly be trackable, and so on. For the purposes given in > > draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names, unsquatted FQDNs would work > > just as well as squatted TLDs. > > I made that point somewhat earlier (but my example was onion.eff.org or > something). > > The reasonable response to my instance of that observation was that > there's a significant deployed base of users already making use of .onion > [1], and we don't have a time machine that we're aware of [2] to allow > that to be fixed. > > Despite the enduring (and endearing, perhaps) optimism that the new gTLD > programme would eventually bear fruit, I don't think it's unreasonable to > think that in 2002 [3] a new gTLD wasn't really a practical option to > choose not to take. > > So squatting doesn't sound right to me.
They choose to use a TLD. There were plenty of people saying "Do NOT use a TLD for your private namespace, use a namespace you own" in 2002 whether it was for a protocol or a internal network. For $20 a year or less they could have registered a name in just about any TLD and avoided the issue. > Joe > > [1] https://metrics.torproject.org > [2] = > http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n_1= > 643488.html > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)#History -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
