On 30 Sep 2010, at 20:23, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoff...@vpnc.org> wrote:
> 
> When you say "ICANN x.509 self-signed certificate", do you mean the 
> certificate used for the https URLs in this draft?

No: see http://data.iana.org/root-anchors/icannbundle.pem and 
http://data.iana.org/root-anchors/Kjqmt7v.crt

> There is *always* a leap of faith, even if it is just "the key that was 
> installed initially". An external third party that is trusted before and 
> after a key rollover is sufficient.

I am assuming that the key that was installed initially was validated manually, 
so that is not a leap of faith. The problem is that a missed rollover causes a 
break in the chain of trust. We want to retain as much trust as possible 
without requiring a manual validation every time old software is installed or 
whenever you do a factory reset on hardware with an embedded validator.

You can't invoke a magic trusted third party because they also have to roll 
their keys. You have moved the problem without solving it.

Tony.
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