On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:35:40AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> In message <200903091515.n29ffetp055...@stora.ogud.com>, Olafur Gudmundsson 
> wri
> tes:
> > --===============0733757033==
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >     boundary="=====================_777355448==.ALT"
> > 
> > --=====================_777355448==.ALT
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > 
> > At 13:46 06/08/2008, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> > >Greetings again. The end of section 2 of this document says:
> > >    Another advantage of configuring a trust anchor using a DS record is
> > >    that the entire hash of the public key in the DS RDATA need not
> > >    necessarily be specified.  A validating resolver MAY support
> > >    configuration using a truncated DS hash value as a human-factors
> > >    convenience: shorter strings are easier to type and less prone to
> > >    error when entered manually.  Even with a truncated hash configured,
> > >    a validating resolver can still verify that the corresponding DNSKEY
> > >    is present in the trust anchor zone's apex DNSKEY RRSet.  RFC 2104
> > >    [RFC2104] offers guidance on acceptable truncation lengths.
> > >
> > >This is not correct. You cannot say "here is the SHA-256 hash of a 
> > >value" and then give less than 256 bits of the hash. If you wanted 
> > >to do this, you need to define the truncated hash and use that new 
> > >hash algorithm. So far, none of these truncated hashes have been 
> > >defined for DNSSEC, although ones could be defined.
> > >
> > >Further, it is somewhat optimistic (and possibly sadistic) to think 
> > >that a user can type Base64 by hand for more than maybe ten 
> > >characters. This document should assume that the user is using 
> > >copy-and-paste, and therefore using the full 256 bits of the hash is 
> > >just as easy as using a truncated hash. If not, new, inherently 
> >weaker, truncated hash algorithms need to be defined.
> > >
> > >--Paul Hoffman, Director
> > >--VPN Consortium
> > >_
> > 
> > You are not the first person to bring this issue up, and upon reflection
> > we have dropped truncation discussion.
> > 
> >          Olafur
> 
>       On a related issue DS -> DNSKEY translations cannot be
>       performed until the DNSKEY is published in the zone.  The
>       use of DS prevents pre-publishing of keys.
> 
>       I can see no real reason to recommend that DS records be
>       published in preference to DNSKEY records.
> 
>       DNSKEY -> DS is a conversion that can be at anytime.
> 
>       This make DNSKEY a better manditory record to publish.
> 
>       Mark
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        if the child produces the DS, then the TTL is preserved.
        if the parent produces the DS, then the TTL is not.

        i'd think that would be a reason to use DS as the record to 
        publish.


--bill
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