On 6/27/21 3:26 PM, Carl Karsten wrote:
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 2:12 PM <wkitt...@gmail.com> wrote:

    put another NIC in it and dedicat that NIC to your management access... 
assign
    it an IP in a weird RFC1918 block and you should be ok... this way you can
    always access it even if the other general purpose NIC is not connected to a
    network...

how is this better than my current solution?

because the two management NICs and crossover cable are your own and can be set so you always have access no matter what the other network is if you even have access to another network at the time...

in other words, you will always have your own separate and private network between your two devices no matter if there is any other network connection on the other NICs... this solution is a separation of your devices connection between themselves and any other network... it provides you a dedicated connection between your two devices always...

    never connect this dedicated NIC to any other network outside of your
complete control... That means I can't use venu lan and have to run my own cables.  Sometimes I run my own cable, but If I don't have to it is nice to jack into existing wiring.

no... you still use the venue cabling for the regular connections... the NICs i'm speaking of are solely for your use between your two machines and solely for your use in managing your two machines when you may have to reconfigure them for a new network on the other NIC... if this reconfiguring is not needed, it still provides you a dedicated network between the two machines without any other traffic from any other network... your command and control stays within your private network and the traffic you generate that needs to go externally does so on the existing NICs and venue cabling...

    be sure to carry a crossover cable with you so you can
    connect that NIC with the one in your other device..

"Newer routers, hubs and switches (including some 10/100, and all 1-gigabit or 10-gigabit devices in practice) use auto MDI-X for 10/100 Mbit connections to automatically switch to the proper configuration once a cable is connected." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-dependent_interface#Auto-MDIX

that's all fine and good if you get NICs that can do that... i prefer to be sure to have all the possibly necessary tools in my bag of majik tricks... i've learned the hard way over the 30+ years i've been doing support in the industry...

    . in fact, you might want to
    use a dedicated management NIC in both devices so they can be set up with
    specific static IPs and always be accessible to each other...

More hardware and more cables and make sure the right cables go to the right hardware.  this does not sound better ;)

you'll never know without trying it but first you need to be able to visualize it and the separation it brings... i mean, you're only talking about maybe another $30US investment in two NICs and another cable or two... so it isn't that expensive... and if your two machines are placed close together (as i assume them to be) then a 3foot to 6foot cable is all that is needed between the two NICs... and you can easily mark the NICs with RED coloring as well as your cable with RED so you know the RED ones are the ones that get connected...

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