The shepherd's write-up has been updated to align with the draft.

Brian

On 8/5/23 2:01 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
Hello Paul,

Thanks for your reply, look below for EV2> but, in short, we are all set 
*except* for the shepherd's write-up .

Regards

-éric

On 05/08/2023, 02:53, "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoff...@icann.org 
<mailto:paul.hoff...@icann.org>> wrote:


On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:29 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org 
<mailto:40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
# Shepherd's write-ip


The shepherd's write-up states "the WG would like to ensure that this list remains in the 
document once it is published as an RFC" but the appendix A states "RFC Editor: please 
remove this section before publication". I.e., the shepherd's write-up and the I-D MUST be 
coherent ;-)

EV> we do need the shepherd's write-up and I-D being consistent on this point. 
*Let me know when either the shepherd's write-up or the I-D is modified.*


You and the shepherd are already discussing this on the mailing list.

EV2> I guess you meant "we" and not "you", but whatever we need a resolution 
for this.

# Section 1.1

I am always uneasy with the use of BCP14 normative language outside of a 
standard track or BCP document.

EV> I have read Paul's reply, as long as authors are aware, let it be. Expect 
some non-blocking comments by some ADs during the IESG evaluation.


This is a ripe topic for a statement from the various RFC stream managers so 
that we document authors will know what to expect. I do hope those comments are 
non-blocking.


EV2> of course this is not blocking, sorry if I was not clear.

# Section 3

This was probably discussed over the mailing list, but must DoT & DoQ replies 
be also identical to Do53 replies ? The current text is a little underspecified.

Paul> The last paragraph of Section 3 says "An authoritative server implementing DoT 
or DoQ MUST authoritatively serve the same zones over all supported transports." How 
should we say that differently to be more specfied?

EV> I still find the text a little unclear about the returned DNS replies 
(e.g., the answer section must be identical in Do53 and DoT). I am leaving the 
choice to the authors about whether to add further clarification text.


Got it: "serve the same zones" versus "have the same replies". We'll make that 
change in -10.

EV2> Thanks

# Section 3.5

Expect some comments during the IESG review if the SHOULDs do not have some 
wording about when the SHOULDs does not apply.

EV> thanks, Paul, for explaining the somehow convoluted/complex clause "this might 
be limited by e.g. not receiving an EDNS(0) option in the query". You may consider 
rendering it easier to parse though.


Sure, I'll make a run at that for -10 as well.


# Section 4.2

Is there any chance to also use an IPv6 example ?

EV> Obviously, there was no chance ;-)


We chose to keep the examples consistent with each other.

EV2> fait enough, though the 2 examples could be IPv6 ;-) (kidding here)

I'll prep a -10, and we'll submit it next week.


--Paul Hoffman

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