On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:04:15 +0200 "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <me...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 10.10.2018 13:20, Rowland Penny wrote: > > Hi, > > > You could just have said: > > * people against <something> shall be banned/silenced, as they're > > discriminating/against <something>. > > > > Instead of that long list. > > I did this to illustrate that <something> can quickly become a very > long list. By the way, the list in the Kernel CoC is also very > incomplete (and it didn't even define what terms like > 'discrimination' etc actually should mean there - just a bunch of > rubber rules). > > >> Those demands usually come from 'leftist' groups (mostly > >> beaurocrats, > > > > Most bureaucrats are, in my opinion, rightist > > Not my experience. Despite the fact that those categories are *very* > context-sensitive, most beaurocrats I had to cope with are actually > great fans of "Gleichschaltung" (can't really translate this - means > something along force everything into the same structure/mindset, make > force individual to be small, replacable, pieces of a big machinery), > IOW: enemies of indivudualism. A bad example of this, here in Germany, > was the era of (National)*Socialism*. Most big corporations I've seen > so far are actually socialistic inside. Are you trying to tell me that Junker etc are leftist ? pull the other one, its got bells on. > > > This totally depends on your point of view, it could be said that > > Harris was just responding to things like the Blitz, the V1 and V2 > > etc, > > No. He already did this long before WW2 in other countries, eg. > against tribal villages in Iraq, Arabia, Palestine, etc. (where he > also used chemical weapons). And he enjoyed this (said this himself!). > > In WW2 he deliberately bombed militarily insignificant cities. There > was no military value in that - ist was just a direct mass termination > of (often wounded and sick) civilians - mothers, children, old people. > In short: a genocide. > > Forbidden eg. by the Washington Treaty and Hague Conventions ! > > This guy even declared burning down large citites - including their > civil, unarmed, inhabitants - a 'comparatively humane method', because > he claimed to have saved some British soldiers. So blitzing London wasn't the same ? > > > You also have to accept it was a part of the largest war this world > > has ever seen. > > Yes, it was part of that horrible war. We also have to accept, that > also the allied, who still declare themselves as 'the only good > people', did massive genocide. And we have to accept the fact that > their goal wasn't 'freeing Germany and Europe from National > Socialism', but the total destruction of Germany as a central power. > (actually, this was already the goal of WW1). It's written in their > own documents. The first world war was a 'family' argument, pity the family were the royal houses of Europe. The second world war was caused by a little dictator that wanted the whole of Europe (including most of Russia). Lets be perfectly honest here, Germany started both world wars. > > Over here in Germany, anybody who talks about that, is automatically > declared 'Nazi' by the leftists (those who call yet for another Bomber > Harris) and risk being hunted down on the street. You should be free to discuss anything you like, it is some actions that need to be banned. > > >> With that background, things like 'CoC's make my alarm bells ring > >> very louldly. Of course, I don't believe that any of the kernel > >> maintainers belong to those groups. But it feels they might be > >> somewhat under some 'social pressure'. > > > > A CoC shouldn't be needed, ever. > > ACK. The kernel community worked very well for the last decades. > > And I don't think that any FOSS project should be some 'social > justice' playground. If people wanna have that, they can easily > create their own projects for such purposes. > We have a saying: Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Basically treat others as you would like to be treated, you don't need a Coc for that. Rowland _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
