Le 20/01/2018 à 01:01, Adam Borowski a écrit :
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:29:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
The only real solution is to do without the Freedesktop.org 'stack' and
give GNOME the heave-ho. Devuan appears unwiling to take that step so
far, therefore here you are, adopting Gentoo's systemd-logind forked
code (which is what elogind is).
While I heartily agree with you about GNOME itself, there's too much
software that uses gnome libs to allow such a move without having to patch
hundreds if not thousands of packages.
Thus, logind needs to be at least emulated. It's currently the most visible
bad piece of that stack, but far from being the only one.
It is true that a lot of things depend on Gnome libraries, Gnome
themes and Gnome icons. But the Gnome libraries may be installed without
the whole Gnome monty.
It remains that DEs, in particular Xfce4, depend also on the
permission kits to perform some operations. Therefore I also think that
the best road would be to emulate these kits without the need for a
session database and/or PAM integration. However this may be a longer
term goal; and, to avoid breaking things in the mean time, use elogind.
Didier
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