On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:26:04 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 21:30:00 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> > > wrote: > > > > > However_, even given that, in my experience any reshuffle USB would > > > add to the _existing_ devices' node assignments would occur only at > > > reboot time _if_ you left the USB device plugged in. > > > > Personal experience: I run an IPCop box as a firewall for my LAN, > > using three USBtoRJ45 interfaces in an attempt to reduce the > > motherboard damage from thunderstorms (I live in Darkest Paraguay). > > > > The local electricity system is not all that reliable, and even with a > > UPS the box gets rebooted several times a week. > > > > In around ten years of use I have never had the problem of USB/NIC > > assignment changing at reboot, except when I had to replace a > > burnt-out USBtoRJ45 ;-3( > > Interesting and thank you. At first, I thought you were going to post > Yet Another USB Flakiness Story, but it turns out that your NICs have > _not_ self-reassigned. Good to know. > > FWIW, when I wrote the above, I actually had in mind mass storage, e.g., > a system has /dev/sda on one HBA and /dev/sdb on another, mounts a USB > mass storage device as /dev/sdc, and then reboots with the USB mass > storage device plugged in and now finds that the USB device is /dev/sdb > in-between the two persistent devices with the result that /etc/fstab is > wrong. (Probably, the admin curses a blue streak and switches to UUID > referencing or disk labels.) > > One thing that people definitely _do_ bitch about is USB casual storage > being (say) /dev/sdc upon one insertion and then later /dev/sdd at the > next insertin (without a reboot between). From my perspective, I never > saw this as a problem. You just observe the inserted device's node by > looking at dmesg | tail, su to root, mount device, done. But the > new-user people don't like that, and want the process to be automagic. > Greg Kroah-Hartman justified the whole udev thing to me, claiming it > needed to be on all Linux systems, on grounds that he wanted his > daughter to be able to use USB devices without needing to be root. I > replied that happily he could do anything for his daughter he wished on > his _own_ systems, but that his daughter wouldn't be plugging USB > devices into my servers, so I wasn't especially interested in helping > her there. I forgot to precise that the three USBtoRJ45 are the same model, TrendNet TU2-ET100. Cheers, Ron. -- Like some infernal monster, still venomous in death, a war can go on killing people for a long time after it’s all over. -- Nevil Shute Norway -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng