On 2017-03-15 21:32, Christopher Clements wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:55:57AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
But what is the point?  Our freedoms are being eroded on all fronts -
we are drowning in a tsunami of reversal of  choice dictated by those
in power be they Debian or corporations or government.
Rather than piss in the wind...

To make this a metaphor, what about pissing _upwind_?
I've seen some others suggest notifying upstream developers that making
systemd mandatory is a bad idea, and it (notifying them) seems like a
good idea, if only to make things easier for Devuan porters.


That is an excellent idea. Would be great if someone got organized enough to start a dialog with EVERY upstream dev individually and/or collectively. Unfortunately, that would be a mammoth task requiring more time than most people could find. I've done work like that on various issues and know from experience, it is a full time job.


I don't see that putting my (insignificant) name on a list of whiners as a productive action. It would just get laughed at and stomped on like ants by Paul Bunyan.


It's less about _who_ is on the list, and more about _how many_ names
are listed.

It's hard to deny there is a problem in the face of a veritable tsunami
of proof.


That depends on your definition of a 'veritable tsunami of proof'. I have no idea what numbers might catch their attention but I imagine it would have to be several hundred thousand at a minimum including a long list of big names/enterprises. That would be another excellent project for someone reading this to take on. Steve's list could just be the first step.

Why not follow your own tactical advice and DO something. As for me . . . I've already got my hands full. From the time I get up in the morning till lights out past midnight 7 days a week, I am working on something to advance devuan in one way or another.

golinux


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