On Tue, 07 Jun 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > I'm all for corporations making money. I get paid, why shouldn't they?
sure, this is sort out of the scope of the discussion. work should be paid as much as possible and sustainability is a feature, not a bug :) I'm even ready to understand some discounts on quality when reasonable, for the sake of time and prompt delivery, especially when things are called with their name (a beta is a beta, better cautious as we are than bold and fast in calling it stable). but said that, I do have a problem with marketing hype and smoke in eyes. Which is pretty much how most corporations communicate outside: they just advertise their products, they lack respect for boundaries and other players. sadly, startup are inheriting this behaviour. however, back to us. I still admire RedHat for having built a company of considerable size, having provided paid work for many developers and having shipped reliable solutions to the public in the past decades. So here maybe me and Steve and others disagree a bit. what i'm "silently ranting" about is the rethoric of innovation, especially when merged to aggressively profit driven strategies and marketing, the "fast food" way. If you look in the big and new corporations today you'll find out that technically aware people who feel a social responsibility for what they are doing are less and less. The vast majority of employees are (very young) sales, stuffed in chicken factory setups for marketing all sorts of ads and nonsense. Time to market is shrunk as much as the quality of products is. "Legacy" customers are disregarded in disgust in most occasions and all sorts of dreams for "easy money" are driving a sometimes blind adoption of products even before they are stable, see Docker's wrapping of LXC for instance, which is as idiotic as succesful in the world we live in http://homolog.us/blogs/blog/2015/09/22/is-docker-for-suckers/ so well what I'm arguing is not that the corporate sub-culture should be ostracized because "evil". I seriously think noone should ever think or speak in reductionist terms of "good" and "evil". I'm arguing that as of today, through a slide of 2 or 3 decades, we are witnessing the necrotization of what it was originally indended as "industry", with choices which are very poor and strategies that are continuously tainted by marketing hype and lobbies. Even the academic world which should be the last bastion for neutrality and objectivity is falling into this landslide, even bribed to do so (see pharmaceutic industry). Can this be fixed by a campaign for industries which "do no evil"? I doubt so.... How do I feel we can fix this? well the answer is maybe too long to write now and contains still many doubts and incertainities. However at Dyne.org we like to think of ourselves as the "slow food" of software and Devuan, straight after dyne:bolic, is one of the best cooked meals we've ever facilitated so far. Big up to Franco and CenturionDan whom I consider to be chef and sous-chef of the menu we are feasting on today in this fine and well mannered restaurant. ciao _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
