On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:51:55 +0200 Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote:
> Le 15/08/2015 02:26, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:49:17 -0700 > > Go Linux <goli...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 8/14/15, T.J. Duchene <t.j.duch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DNG] Systemd Shims > >> To: dng@lists.dyne.org > >> Date: Friday, August 14, 2015, 2:47 PM > >> > >>> I know not everyone here agrees with me, especially Steve, and > >>> that's perfectly okay. I have no problem with that at all. I just > >>> don't see "System 5 pure" as realistic when planning ahead > >>> looking at a maintenance standpoint when Debuan upstream is more > >>> and more likely to stick with Systemd in designing their > >>> packaging. > >>> > >> Maybe we should just put Steve in charge of decontaminating all > >> packages with systemd deps! > > Oh, you wouldn't want to do that. Contrary to what I wrote in > > another thread about "the perfect is the enemy of the good", if *I* > > were in charge of decontamination, I'd throw out whole subsystems. > > Gnome gone. KDE gone. Xfce gone. Networkmanager gone. Gimp gone if > > it gets all systemd on us. > > > > In the massive time I save as not being the bomb squad defusing Red > > Hat's terrorism, I'd write small replacements for a lot of things > > that use only Linux and a very rudimentary and optional GUI > > interface. > > > > Then I'd write documentation explaining how to use a sharp thinking > > computer, to the proud ignorants of the world, especially those who > > believe their ignorance is a badge of honor proving their age or > > gender. > > > > And the people who prioritize pretty over functional and robust: I'd > > tell them to get a Mac. > > > > You don't want me in that capacity. > > > > And yes, I *am* a hypocrit who takes one position in one thread, and > > then says he'd do the opposite in another. :-) > > > > SteveT > > > > > > Please, Steve, provide us with all you mentionned, as an > alternative to mainstream bloated/infected stuff. Since Devuan is all > about freedom, this is the place where to deliver to the world. As > soon as I can install Devuan on metal, I'll be one of your testers. > > Didier OK. What should come first? * Automounter? * No-dbus replacement for NetworkManager/Wicd? * Other? Please keep in mind, I'm not a good enough programmer to write a substitute for Gimp or Gnome. Let's keep the first one simple and easy so I can actually do it, in a reasonable timeframe, without adversely impacting my real work. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng