Le 03/08/2015 19:23, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200
Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote:

      Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here
want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right
to use it, nor to use kdbus.
Devuan was created out of a dislike of systemd. When you say "People
here want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the
right", we're not going to deliberately and maliciously put booby traps
against systemd in Devuan.

But I hope neither you nor others interpret this as our spending a
microsecond of development time making systemd use easier. Nor that we
add even one config option to ease use of systemd. I hope nobody is
suggesting that we in the slightest inconvenience a normal Devuan user
to accommodate this hypothetical person who wants to put systemd on
Devuan, instead of using Debian.

There are probably 30 official major binary distributions[1] defaulting
to systemd. There's 1 official major binary distribution defaulting to
something else: Devuan. Devuan's priority must be to provide a
sans-systemd OS, not diluted by the irrelevant "freedom" of installing
systemd on it.


[1] Manjaro-OpenRC is a tolerated Manjaro flavor, but Officially
Manjaro is systemd.


SteveT

    I mean exactly the same thing a you :-)

    I dare to add a comment.

Aldous Huxley is the author of a historic narrative "The devils of Loudun". At the end, the author draws a moral wich summarizes like this:

If you ever try to fight the devil head-on, it always turn on that you play in his favour. The only way to actually fight the bad is to do the good.

    Cheers.
                        Didier


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