Le 22/03/2015 16:59, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 12:53:02 +0000
Nuno Magalhães<nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt>  wrote:

>On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:24 AM, T.J. Duchene<t.j.duch...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
> >What I said was at some point Devuan will probably have to support
> >systemd's API, in order to support upstream projects that actually
> >require systemd.
>
>Why?
>
>Biggest example: GNOME (now) requires systemd. I don't want systemd,
>so, i won't use GNOME. If i want either, i'll use Debian, not Devuan.
I agree 100% with Nuno.

I agree also. I'm still not against leaving some room to Gnome/KDE to come in if they find a way to run with stubs, or totally without systemd (which I doubt), but I absolutely don't care if Devuan has none of them.

99% people use Windows or Mac. Out of the 1% using Linux or BSD, 80% try painfully to get shomething working out of Gnome, because it's installed by default and they don't know of usable DEs they could install.

I think a Linux desktop with Xfce4 as default is going to be more attractive than Debian to any user, even if they didn't hear of systemd. Think of it: a desktop that's usable, out of the box! The Desktop is going to make the difference, because, of course, Debian Gnome/Linux will force people into Gnome's hell (no typo).

    Didier

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