On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:11 PM, T.J. Duchene <t.j.duch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Go look at the code, it's open" is a common "argument" i hear from >> pro-systemd advocates. Curious. About looking at the code: have you >> personally audited chrome's code, top to bottom, OpenBSD-style? 'Cos if you >> haven't - it is a big piece of software -, well your argument is moot > > Nuno, when I say this, I'm not trying to be rude, or nasty or mean. The > fact that you don't like Google is noted, and accepted. > > If you aren't going to make the effort to look at the code, please do not > pass judgment on the authors or their efforts. Otherwise, you are offering > only second hand knowledge: hearsay and not fact. That's not an argument > associated with systemd, that is the whole point of open source. It is > actually about the level of trust. No one can possibly argue that the code > is tainted or not when they have not reviewed the code. Nor has anyone on > this list likely to have reviewed the vast majority of the code for all of a > Linux distribution. Either Devuan trusts the community to police the code or > it doesn't.
Unfortunately i don't have time to look at every bit of code of the software i use. I do trust the majority of open-source software out there, without looking at its code. I don't think i need to look at the code for that. > Just to be clear, I did not advocate "Chrome" at any point. Chromium is not > Chrome. A derived software is not the same as the original. Chrome is made > from Chromium, not the other way around. Much the same way, LibreOffice is > NOT the original OpenOffice, nor is Lotus Symphony. Me neither and i wrote "chromium" when i actually meant "chrome", my bad. Since you didn't answer the original question i'm going to assume you did look at chromium's code. Please share your insights. While i inderstand the stability of forking a process for every tab i don't see the benefit of the performance penalty. Maybe i'm wrong. I - personally - use chromium sometimes as i, as you've noticed, dislike Google yet some IE-ish sites work better on chromium than they do on firefox. Chromium seems fast but lacks a few plugins i use in Firefox. Unfortunately, they're both memory hogs (as far as my experience with them goes). Hence my original suggestion: for a distro that's still trying to get on its feet, a lightweight browser would probably be best, like midori, dillo or something else. I don't think the effort of eventually tweaking firefox or chrome (i said eventually) is worth it at this moment. Still, that's the beauty of open-source: even if one of these two browsers gets chosen, i can, if i want, use something else. As can you. > I think after this, I'm going to lessen responding to the general list. I'm > *not* pointing fingers at you, Nuno or anyone's behavior. I am just as > guilty of the same, but any time I decide to spend on Devuan could be more > productive: better spent packaging or coding. I "totally get" the need to > vent, or just rant sometimes - but the constant antagonism toward certain > software, their authors, and the paranoia is starting to get to me. Some of > the discussions have been great! I especially liked the one on languages. > However, most seem to go nowhere. Indeed any time spent on packaging or coding is time well-spent, thank you. I do try to vent as little as possible and try doing so in a rational and civilized manner. However, as has recently happened here on the list, maybe some cultural nuances flew by me (english is not my native language) and i may've offended you somehow. If so, my apologies. > Is there a dev list available where I can track the progress of Devuan toward > Alpha? This discussion has been brought up before and the general consensus was not to split this list into dev- and user-. My take on that at the time was that not splitting makes sure both sides (if you see sides; i don't -- and didn't say you do) stay in touch and blurr the lines a bit -- it's sane for both to "keep each other in check" and to know what the other is doing. Obviously this is only my opinion. Cheers, Nuno _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
