Hi there,

[Cutting out a lot of cc:s to try to keep the noise level down.]

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, Stephen Farrell wrote:

...
domain owner/sender could indicate via DMARC to receivers that they
think SPF is no longer good enough by itself, in their opinion, for
email claiming to be from them (the sender).

I wish I had a Bitcoin for every time I've heard "our SPF record must
be OK - it passes".

Everyone seems to be looking for a 'pass'.  I've always thought that
everyone (except me:) gets SPF on its head.

In my view you're looking for it to 'fail' (or for some error - lots
more of those than you'd think, if you stress-test the SPF records).

If then it passes, it doesn't really tell you anything.  Move on.  I
get a heck of a lot of mail from me for example, which I didn't send
and which I can cheerfully reject on SPF alone.

Personally, I do think it odd there's no way for a sender to use
DMARC to say "I know I still have to publish SPF stuff, so as not
to break things, but I'd really prefer you ignore that and depend
only on my DKIM stuff if you know how to parse this new bit of a
TXT RR for DMARC."

$ dig +short -t txt exp.jubileegroup.co.uk
"The only servers permitted to send mail on behalf of the jubileegroup.co.uk domain 
are those listed in its SPF record."
$

Surely there must be a way, with what we already have.

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73,
Ged.

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