Franck Martin <[email protected]> responds to my suggestion
for text for 4.1:

>>   [SPF], which authenticates:
>>     - the domain found in an [SMTP] HELO or EHLO command
>>       (the "HELO result"), and/or
>>     - the domain found in an [SMTP] MAIL command, or the domain
>>       found in the HELO/EHLO command if the MAIL command has a
>>       null path (the "MAIL FROM" result).
>>   It is not specified whether DMARC uses the "HELO result"
>>   or the "MAIL FROM result"; implementations differ.

> Your text is clearer but replace the last sentence by:
> DMARC uses the MAIL FROM result.
>
> If you look Terri's, my implementation, which is used at
> least by another large ISP, and Tim's conformance tests,
> that were used for much code out there. Then I can say DMARC
> uses the MAIL from result today. I cannot speak for everyone,
> but this is what I feel is true out there.
> 
> I have not seen any evidence that DMARC uses the HELO result,
> so your implementation differ is conjecture.

Not quite conjecture; it's based on Murray writing, a few days ago:

MK> I can say that OpenDMARC consumes the Authentication-Results
MK> field, or the Received-SPF field if the former isn't there,
MK> but it prefers a result based on MAIL FROM over one based on
MK> HELO if both are present.  But it will use both.

Perhaps I misunderstood him?


I certainly have no objection to Scott's text, which he proposed
in another message, assuming it is correct, which I certainly
don't feel qualified to comment on.  My efforts have been aimed
at making things clear - whether they are correct has to be
someone else's call!  ;-)


Anne.
-- 
Ms. Anne Bennett, Senior Sysadmin, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal H3G 1M8
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