I understand that there are "standard" ways to install apps on my
version of Linux.  And you are correct that I do not want to compile
my own binary packages.  I loose money in doing that.  I do not make
money by trying to figure out all the dependencies to try and attempt
to compile some code just to find out that a package that I need does
not work for this version.  Wasting my time and costing me money.

To ask another question then.  Why put out a new release if it is not
stable???  I can get python 25 from apt-get.  that is debian package
manager.  that means Debian has built the package for that platform,
correct???  so what you are saying then is that since I tried to use
apt-get to get my "bleading edge" software, that this version is not
stable??? Yet python has come out with 26.  is that a stable build???
why should any one upgrade when they are going have to "compile your
own binaries based on your platform configuration."  Why build new
features and show then to the world when in making the change is going
to cost a company very highly in time and money?

I really to like the python language.  I like the way it reads and how
it works.  The books that I have read about django and what it can do
has done nothing but get me excited to use and learn the language.
then I try to install and actually build something with it just to
find out that I the books are written for a newer version then I can
install??  That tells me the people can sit down and write a 400+ page
book, complete with examples and code, go through the editing process,
print the book, distribute the book, have the public library order the
book, and then I get the book.  all of that can happen before someone
figures out how to build a package to install mod-python for
python25??  Now you tell me I have to "compile" my own source code
because python25 is to "bleeding edge."  WOW.  and here I thought that
because "open source" has so many minds working on the problem that is
moves faster that anything.  I guess I am mistaken on that one.

I do not want to agrue.  But I do not care nor want to be a Linux
admin.  that is not what I enjoy doing it only frustrates me.  I want
to program to write code not to figure out the inner working of an OS
to maybe get some old version of a language to install correctly.



On Feb 6, 7:02 am, William Stearns <wstea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just because there is a new version of python out, doesn't necessarily
> mean that there's a stable build for your particular breed of debian.
> If you want to stay on the bleeding edge, then you should compile your
> own versions of python, mod_python, apache, etc...  Just because
> builds work on winblows automagically, doesn't mean they are
> completely stable and optimized for the platform.  There is a standard
> way to install stuff on linux, compile your own binaries based on your
> platform configuration.  Debian, RH, and other distros with binary
> packages provide stable platforms, not optimized platforms, for people
> that are too lazy to do the grunt work for themselves.
>
> On Feb 6, 8:47 am, BrianE <stypo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you mean to tell me that even though there are updates and new
> > features coming out all the time with python and django there is no
> > way to use the new features because it will not install correctly???
> > pardon by ignorance but I do not have time to F&(* around trying to
> > get a version to work on debain.  No wonder M$ is getting bigger and
> > having more and more servers out there.  the installs and upgrades
> > work.  Compiling from source is a freaking joke. I have to install gcc
> > make and a bunch of other crap that I am not going to install on a
> > production box, but with out it there is no way to install mod-
> > python.  My options are then to use python 24 and hope and wait that
> > someone, who is smarter then me, figures out how to install mod-python
> > from python 25.  Yet the world is on 2.6 and going to 3.0.  At what
> > point do I throw my hands up and say I have waisted enough time trying
> > to get something to work on a Linux distro and switch to M$???  seeing
> > how there is no "standard" way of install application on Linux.
>
> > On Feb 6, 6:24 am, Kenneth Gonsalves <law...@thenilgiris.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Friday 06 Feb 2009 6:43:53 pm BrianE wrote:
>
> > > > how can I get mod_python, which is needed by apache, to load in the
> > > > python 25 directoty and not in the 24 directory?
>
> > > only if etch  backports has it
>
> > > --
> > > regards
> > > KGhttp://lawgon.livejournal.com
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