Okay. Say something....
If you need some files, I will be charmed to give

Regards,
Xan.

On Oct 11, 9:53 pm, Derek Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> your previous bug was a standard import issue unrelated to deseb.
> however this looks like it may be a real one.  let me look into it.
>
> derek
>
>
>
> Xan wrote:
>
> > On Oct 11, 5:13 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 07:21 -0700, Xan wrote:
>
> >> [...]
>
> >>> Perhaps I have to read python doc, but my intention is only follow
> >>> deseb/django documentation. If normal user have to read python doc,
> >>> then django became not simple, I think
> >> Django is a framework for *Python programmers*. You do need to have some
> >> understanding of Python in order to be able to diagnose anything but the
> >> most trivial problems. It would be redundant for us to repeat
> >> information that is already in the Python documentation, so if your
> >> expectations are that you will never have to read anything beyond
> >> Django's documentation, then you are going to find things fairly
> >> difficult.
>
> >> Even if the required knowledge is only how import paths work and how to
> >> configure them, you need to do some background work here. We aren't
> >> going to cover a lot of that information in Django's documentation
> >> because it is so fundamental to the way Python works that it is covered
> >> in the standard docs already.
>
> >> The concept of a "normal user" is fairly nebulous, since that could mean
> >> somebody developing with Django or just using a Django application (an
> >> installer -- the role you are playing -- would not typically be the
> >> normal target audience for something like this). Unless you are
> >> installing pre-packaged versions of everything (which you aren't), you
> >> at least need to have a sys-admin's understanding of Python (which means
> >> knowing about standard import paths, etc) to get things working.
>
> >> I'm also a bit concerned about what you expect to happen at the end of
> >> this project. Something like deseb is *only* useful if you are
> >> developing with Django, and only in semi-advanced situations. Which
> >> means writing Python code. It's not really a tool for somebody just
> >> starting out.
>
> > I don't want to discuss for discuss, but I'm not in agreement with you
> > with this last paragraph. deseb is useful for database evolution (for
> > example for adding models to modeles file), that I think it's very
> > frequent request for normal users, not only developers.
>
> > For this reason is for that I want to install deseb. For migrate my
> > database more easyly
>
> > For the other hand, how do you know that my error using deseb is path
> > python error?. After I put "import deseb" in settings.py and run
> > "python manage sqlevolve analisi" I get the following error:
>
> >  python manage.py sqlevolve analisi
> > BEGIN;
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "manage.py", line 11, in <module>
> >     execute_manager(settings)
> >   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/django/core/management.py",
> > line 1672, in execute_manager
> >     execute_from_command_line(action_mapping, argv)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/__init__.py", line 90,
> > in inner
> >     return func(*args, **kwargs)
> >   File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/django/core/management.py",
> > line 1632, in execute_from_command_line
> >     output = action_mapping[action](mod)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/__init__.py", line 83,
> > in inner
> >     return schema_evolution.get_sql_evolution_v0_96(*args, **kwargs)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
> > line 242, in get_sql_evolution_v0_96
> >     return get_sql_evolution(app, management.style)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
> > line 248, in get_sql_evolution
> >     return get_sql_evolution_detailed(app, style)[2]
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
> > line 334, in get_sql_evolution_detailed
> >     sql, references = _get_sql_model_create(model, seen_models, style)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
> > line 413, in _get_sql_model_create
>
> > style.SQL_FIELD(ops.quote_name(f.rel.to._meta.get_field(f.rel.field_name).column))
> > + ')' #+
> > AttributeError: DatabaseOperations instance has no attribute
> > 'quote_name'
>
> > If you see, it appears that deseb is starting (BEGIN line). So, the
> > path seems to be good (at least it detects deseb). Isn't ?
> > How can I know if it's path problem or another thing?
>
> > Thanks in advance, and sorry for long thread but I'm newbee user (yes,
> > django users include newbees ;-))
> > Xan.
>
> > PS: My export command output is:
>
> > export
> > declare -x COLORTERM="Terminal"
> > declare -x DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS="unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-
> > xp4BcYOtii,guid=915223fcae6fa13470f8cc00470e66b6"
> > declare -x DESKTOP_SESSION="xfce4"
> > declare -x DISPLAY=":0.0"
> > declare -x GDMSESSION="xfce4"
> > declare -x GDM_XSERVER_LOCATION="local"
> > declare -x GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET="/tmp/keyring-oidSB3/socket"
> > declare -x HISTCONTROL="ignoredups"
> > declare -x HOME="/home/xan"
> > declare -x LANG="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > declare -x LANGUAGE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > declare -x LESSCLOSE="/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s"
> > declare -x LESSOPEN="| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s"
> > declare -x LOGNAME="xan"
> > declare -x
> > LS_COLORS="no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.mpc=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.wav=01;35:"
> > declare -x OLDPWD
> > declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/
> > sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
> > declare -x PWD="/home/xan/anadoc/analitzador"
> > declare -x SESSION_MANAGER="local/servidor:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5499"
> > declare -x SHELL="/bin/bash"
> > declare -x SHLVL="1"
> > declare -x SSH_AGENT_PID="5444"
> > declare -x SSH_AUTH_SOCK="/tmp/ssh-PVyFfc5326/agent.5326"
> > declare -x TERM="xterm"
> > declare -x USER="xan"
> > declare -x USERNAME="xan"
> > declare -x WINDOWID="41945425"
> > declare -x XAUTHORITY="/tmp/.gdmPERKZT"
> > declare -x XDG_DATA_DIRS="/etc/xdg/xubuntu:/usr/share:/usr/local/
> > share:/usr/share"
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Malcolm
>
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