On Oct 11, 5:13 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 07:21 -0700, Xan wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Perhaps I have to read python doc, but my intention is only follow
> > deseb/django documentation. If normal user have to read python doc,
> > then django became not simple, I think
>
> Django is a framework for *Python programmers*. You do need to have some
> understanding of Python in order to be able to diagnose anything but the
> most trivial problems. It would be redundant for us to repeat
> information that is already in the Python documentation, so if your
> expectations are that you will never have to read anything beyond
> Django's documentation, then you are going to find things fairly
> difficult.
>
> Even if the required knowledge is only how import paths work and how to
> configure them, you need to do some background work here. We aren't
> going to cover a lot of that information in Django's documentation
> because it is so fundamental to the way Python works that it is covered
> in the standard docs already.
>
> The concept of a "normal user" is fairly nebulous, since that could mean
> somebody developing with Django or just using a Django application (an
> installer -- the role you are playing -- would not typically be the
> normal target audience for something like this). Unless you are
> installing pre-packaged versions of everything (which you aren't), you
> at least need to have a sys-admin's understanding of Python (which means
> knowing about standard import paths, etc) to get things working.
>
> I'm also a bit concerned about what you expect to happen at the end of
> this project. Something like deseb is *only* useful if you are
> developing with Django, and only in semi-advanced situations. Which
> means writing Python code. It's not really a tool for somebody just
> starting out.
I don't want to discuss for discuss, but I'm not in agreement with you
with this last paragraph. deseb is useful for database evolution (for
example for adding models to modeles file), that I think it's very
frequent request for normal users, not only developers.
For this reason is for that I want to install deseb. For migrate my
database more easyly
For the other hand, how do you know that my error using deseb is path
python error?. After I put "import deseb" in settings.py and run
"python manage sqlevolve analisi" I get the following error:
python manage.py sqlevolve analisi
BEGIN;
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "manage.py", line 11, in <module>
execute_manager(settings)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/django/core/management.py",
line 1672, in execute_manager
execute_from_command_line(action_mapping, argv)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/__init__.py", line 90,
in inner
return func(*args, **kwargs)
File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/django/core/management.py",
line 1632, in execute_from_command_line
output = action_mapping[action](mod)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/__init__.py", line 83,
in inner
return schema_evolution.get_sql_evolution_v0_96(*args, **kwargs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
line 242, in get_sql_evolution_v0_96
return get_sql_evolution(app, management.style)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
line 248, in get_sql_evolution
return get_sql_evolution_detailed(app, style)[2]
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
line 334, in get_sql_evolution_detailed
sql, references = _get_sql_model_create(model, seen_models, style)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/deseb/schema_evolution.py",
line 413, in _get_sql_model_create
style.SQL_FIELD(ops.quote_name(f.rel.to._meta.get_field(f.rel.field_name).column))
+ ')' #+
AttributeError: DatabaseOperations instance has no attribute
'quote_name'
If you see, it appears that deseb is starting (BEGIN line). So, the
path seems to be good (at least it detects deseb). Isn't ?
How can I know if it's path problem or another thing?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for long thread but I'm newbee user (yes,
django users include newbees ;-))
Xan.
PS: My export command output is:
export
declare -x COLORTERM="Terminal"
declare -x DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS="unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-
xp4BcYOtii,guid=915223fcae6fa13470f8cc00470e66b6"
declare -x DESKTOP_SESSION="xfce4"
declare -x DISPLAY=":0.0"
declare -x GDMSESSION="xfce4"
declare -x GDM_XSERVER_LOCATION="local"
declare -x GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET="/tmp/keyring-oidSB3/socket"
declare -x HISTCONTROL="ignoredups"
declare -x HOME="/home/xan"
declare -x LANG="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
declare -x LANGUAGE="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
declare -x LESSCLOSE="/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s"
declare -x LESSOPEN="| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s"
declare -x LOGNAME="xan"
declare -x
LS_COLORS="no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.flac=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.mpc=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.wav=01;35:"
declare -x OLDPWD
declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/
sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
declare -x PWD="/home/xan/anadoc/analitzador"
declare -x SESSION_MANAGER="local/servidor:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5499"
declare -x SHELL="/bin/bash"
declare -x SHLVL="1"
declare -x SSH_AGENT_PID="5444"
declare -x SSH_AUTH_SOCK="/tmp/ssh-PVyFfc5326/agent.5326"
declare -x TERM="xterm"
declare -x USER="xan"
declare -x USERNAME="xan"
declare -x WINDOWID="41945425"
declare -x XAUTHORITY="/tmp/.gdmPERKZT"
declare -x XDG_DATA_DIRS="/etc/xdg/xubuntu:/usr/share:/usr/local/
share:/usr/share"
>
> Regards,
> Malcolm
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