Significantly better. The latter method loads every single model in the
queryset into Python, potentially the whole database!
On May 15, 2013 9:24 PM, "Lee Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is qs[:1][0] better form than list(qs)[0]?
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Selwin Ong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've updated the first() and last() to not accept any arguments. Please
>> review it and let me know if there's anything else I need to change.
>> Hopefully this can get merged in during the sprints and make it into 1.6 :).
>>
>> The pull request is here: https://github.com/django/django/pull/1056
>>
>> Best,
>> Selwin
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2013 8:12:35 PM UTC+7, Michal Petrucha wrote:
>>>
>>> > > I initially modeled "first()" and "last()"'s behaviors to mimic
>>> > > "latest()", but in this new pull request, you can pass multiple
>>> field names
>>> > > into "first()" and "last()" so it behaves like "order_by()". It's
>>> more
>>> > > flexible and requires less typing, but I wonder if we should just
>>> get rid
>>> > > of the optional field arguments and rely on "order_by" for ordering.
>>> "There
>>> > > should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it".
>>> >
>>> > Considering "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious
>>> way to
>>> > do it", I definitely prefer to rely on order_by to do the ordering,
>>> not on
>>> > first.
>>> >
>>> > .order_by('name').first()
>>> >
>>> > is clear and readable in my opinion.
>>>
>>> My thoughts exactly, we already have one method that does ordering, I
>>> don't think it is necessary to make these methods incorporate that
>>> functionality. If we did, we might argue that other QuerySet
>>> operations could be supported as well and that would just result in a
>>> bloated API. Especially if there's no performance gain (the QuerySet
>>> would be cloned anyway), and it only saves a few lines of code.
>>>
>>> Also, skimming through this thread, I think there was a consensus on
>>> first() and last() not taking any ordering arguments, i.e. the first
>>> proposed syntax:
>>>
>>>     .filter(last_name__startswith=**'b').order_by('last_name').**first()
>>>
>>>
>>> Michal
>>>
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