Is qs[:1][0] better form than list(qs)[0]?

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Selwin Ong <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've updated the first() and last() to not accept any arguments. Please
> review it and let me know if there's anything else I need to change.
> Hopefully this can get merged in during the sprints and make it into 1.6 :).
>
> The pull request is here: https://github.com/django/django/pull/1056
>
> Best,
> Selwin
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2013 8:12:35 PM UTC+7, Michal Petrucha wrote:
>>
>> > > I initially modeled "first()" and "last()"'s behaviors to mimic
>> > > "latest()", but in this new pull request, you can pass multiple field
>> names
>> > > into "first()" and "last()" so it behaves like "order_by()". It's
>> more
>> > > flexible and requires less typing, but I wonder if we should just get
>> rid
>> > > of the optional field arguments and rely on "order_by" for ordering.
>> "There
>> > > should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it".
>> >
>> > Considering "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious
>> way to
>> > do it", I definitely prefer to rely on order_by to do the ordering, not
>> on
>> > first.
>> >
>> > .order_by('name').first()
>> >
>> > is clear and readable in my opinion.
>>
>> My thoughts exactly, we already have one method that does ordering, I
>> don't think it is necessary to make these methods incorporate that
>> functionality. If we did, we might argue that other QuerySet
>> operations could be supported as well and that would just result in a
>> bloated API. Especially if there's no performance gain (the QuerySet
>> would be cloned anyway), and it only saves a few lines of code.
>>
>> Also, skimming through this thread, I think there was a consensus on
>> first() and last() not taking any ordering arguments, i.e. the first
>> proposed syntax:
>>
>>     .filter(last_name__startswith=**'b').order_by('last_name').**first()
>>
>> Michal
>>
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