I agree with Idan. We mainly did Grappelli because of the look & feel (and 
then added some functionality like autocompletes).

However, it just doesn´t make sense to simply "beautify" the existing 
admin-interface. Rethinking the functionality, adding flexibility, being 
able to customize ... these are all necessary steps IMHO, but I´m still 
missing a clear approach/roadmap on how/when this should happen.

I planned to give a talk on djangocon.eu about how to improve the 
admin-interface. Unfortunately, I had to step back from that idea because 
of some customer-related projects. Still, the thoughts are there and I´m 
happy to discuss this issue anytime. This discussion could start with 
defining the so-called "trusted editor" – what does he/she knows resp. 
needs to know when dealing with the admin-interface? What are the 
consequences (e.g., does an editor care about an app-list, does he even 
know what it is)? What working-groups do we need (python, html/css, js, 
...)? How can we publish the process/discussion? And much more ... let´s 
start ... but how?

best,
patrick 


Am Montag, 30. April 2012 23:41:14 UTC+2 schrieb Idan Gazit:
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Brett H wrote: 
>
> > Increasing the flexibility for development and integration is more 
> > important than trying to 2nd guess where we are going to be in 5 years 
> > time. 
>
> Fair enough, but that sort of flexibility is available now. Nothing is 
> preventing you from starting your 3rd-party admin app today. 
>
>
>
> The issue is Django's officially-blessed, officially-documented admin. I'm 
> not sure it's better to have admin in contrib (or contrib at all, but 
> that's a separate ball of wax). I have a feeling that this issue will 
> probably be addressed once again now that we're on github. 
>
> All the same, if there's going to be an official django admin, I'd like it 
> to give some thought to the issues I've raised. I have no problem (read: 
> would love) to draw upon existing solutions for an admin revamp, but right 
> now I don't have a fitness function to guide my decisions, and I think that 
> is necessary. Not a spec, just an attempt to step back and think about what 
> the admin should do. 
>
> -I 
>
>
>

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