Hi,

I'm guessing there aren't any updates on this? Lol.

Idan - you mentioned you'd like to get thoughts on what we hope to achieve 
in a new admin - basically, what is the purpose of Django's contrib.admin - 
is that right?

Is there some place that people can brainstorm or contribute their thoughts 
on this? Should somebody make a wiki page for collecting all this?

Cheers,
Victor

On Friday, 18 May 2012 20:18:59 UTC+10, patrickk wrote:
>
> I agree with Idan. We mainly did Grappelli because of the look & feel (and 
> then added some functionality like autocompletes).
>
> However, it just doesn´t make sense to simply "beautify" the existing 
> admin-interface. Rethinking the functionality, adding flexibility, being 
> able to customize ... these are all necessary steps IMHO, but I´m still 
> missing a clear approach/roadmap on how/when this should happen.
>
> I planned to give a talk on djangocon.eu about how to improve the 
> admin-interface. Unfortunately, I had to step back from that idea because 
> of some customer-related projects. Still, the thoughts are there and I´m 
> happy to discuss this issue anytime. This discussion could start with 
> defining the so-called "trusted editor" – what does he/she knows resp. 
> needs to know when dealing with the admin-interface? What are the 
> consequences (e.g., does an editor care about an app-list, does he even 
> know what it is)? What working-groups do we need (python, html/css, js, 
> ...)? How can we publish the process/discussion? And much more ... let´s 
> start ... but how?
>
> best,
> patrick 
>
>
> Am Montag, 30. April 2012 23:41:14 UTC+2 schrieb Idan Gazit:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Brett H wrote: 
>>
>> > Increasing the flexibility for development and integration is more 
>> > important than trying to 2nd guess where we are going to be in 5 years 
>> > time. 
>>
>> Fair enough, but that sort of flexibility is available now. Nothing is 
>> preventing you from starting your 3rd-party admin app today. 
>>
>>
>>
>> The issue is Django's officially-blessed, officially-documented admin. 
>> I'm not sure it's better to have admin in contrib (or contrib at all, but 
>> that's a separate ball of wax). I have a feeling that this issue will 
>> probably be addressed once again now that we're on github. 
>>
>> All the same, if there's going to be an official django admin, I'd like 
>> it to give some thought to the issues I've raised. I have no problem (read: 
>> would love) to draw upon existing solutions for an admin revamp, but right 
>> now I don't have a fitness function to guide my decisions, and I think that 
>> is necessary. Not a spec, just an attempt to step back and think about what 
>> the admin should do. 
>>
>> -I 
>>
>>
>>

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