On 5/5/21 2:37 PM, Matt Sicker wrote:
This reference should be useful:
https://inclusivenaming.org/language/evaluation-framework/
FWIW the Inclusive Naming effort is still very young, and all of the
docs we're working on are still in flux. We're definitely working on a
*list*, but lists can be very divisive, for reasons that you've already
seen in this particular thread.
Lists tend to be received as Thou Shalt Not, and word policing, and
pretty soon the conversation turns to people misquoting 1984. As such, I
think that a word list is *absolutely* not the right place to start the
conversation, but, rather, something to bring in much later when people
start asking "what comes next?"
What we've found in our work on this topic at Red Hat, and in the
Inclusive Naming group, is that what's important is getting the
conversation started, and helping people understand that the
conversation is about compassion, not about control. Once you tackle a
few words/phrases that are easy to understand ("Slave" is a great place
to start), then in many cases someone in the project community begins to
champion the idea of conscious language choices as a path to welcoming
new contributors, rather than as some kind of word/thought policing.
On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 08:15, Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabr...@apache.org> wrote:
Hello all @diversity,
We have been seeing movements on projects changing the use of some terms.
Some of these recent changes have been addressing the "master" branch and
also replacing "black/white-list" for options such as "allow/deny-list".
Recently we, at CloudStack, started to move towards the same direction;
however, there have been some discussions regarding which name to choose,
as well as if there is any position from the Apache Software Foundation of
such changes.
I am raising this regarding the recent discussions on the Apache CloudStack
project on renaming the master branch. You can find the mails linked bellow:
1. [Discuss] thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd7df8d0fc813c47fda6640970c3fb7c065a08fff05c42f367ae8efbc%40%3Cdev.cloudstack.apache.org%3E
2. [Vote] thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7d7a1a7ea82bd2058e2f8634cffec75bcce585b591ee2a5709fd35d0%40%3Cdev.cloudstack.apache.org%3E
Is thre any guideline or plan to create one that recommends/guides projects
on adopting inclusive words?
If not, how we could contribute in order to stablish one?
I would also like to know if this e-mail would fit on the ASF board Mailing
list, I thought first on bringing this to the diversity@apache.
I don't think that the board would consider this a board discussion, but
would rather point either to this list, or possibly to the Community
Development list. This seems like the correct list, to me.
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Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com
@rbowen
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