I don't see an issue with sharing aggregate data.  Every ASF member
has access to the raw data, but extracting it will be labor intensive.

- Sam Ruby

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:42 AM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Bertrand,
>
> If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution
> of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA
> files without displaying names of committers, just the countries and we
> will know for sure how geographically diverse we are. This will answer some
> key questions like "is there a diversity problem?" and comments like "Show
> me the facts supporting our lack of diversity" will be dealt with. Even if
> its just one aspect of diversity(geographical).
>
> Look at a project like https://whimsy.apache.org/, they collect all these
> info and display them for all of us to consume. Can we not collect country
> information from iCLAs without showing names of people? Just the countries
> and display by continent.
> I went looking and found these
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/board and
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/iclas by analyzing the
> Whimsy source code and checking their data sources.
>
> I dont have permission to view the above files but can someone confirm if
> these files contain country information which we could anonymously use to
> prove if we have geographical diversity problem or not?
>
> The last survey had a response rate of 13%. Do you think that good enough
> for making decisions? We need to look for other ways to calculate our
> diversity numbers.
>
> Thanks.
> Awasum
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:26 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:17 AM Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > ...I was wondering if we could get country information for all
> > Committers,
> > > PMCs, Directors and Members and see if we can even draw some facts on
> > > geographical distribution of our volunteers?...
> >
> > There's http://community.zones.apache.org/map.html but it only
> > includes people "who have chosen to publically share their location in
> > their FOAF files".
> >
> > You cannot use that information without people's consent, so scraping
> > iCLAs is not acceptable.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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