This might be slightly inflammatory, but how about this: do you want
non-shitty documentation? How about graphics and logos? Maybe a nice
website? Or some helpful users for support? Hard to do without community!

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 15:14, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:

> The first and most important question is something along the lines of:
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> Q: Apache does everything by e-mail. I do not know or care about the
> race, ethnicity, gender, age, weight, or any other personal
> characteristics of other contributors. Why are diversity and inclusion
> relevant issues for Apache?
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> Here are some elements that I think should be covered in the answer. At
> this point, I am going for the big picture. Please suggest improvements
> and fix errors.
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> 1. Subconscious bias: You know the name the contributor uses. In
> addition, you may know their time zone and, from how quotes are
> introduced, the language in which they do most of their e-mail interaction.
>
> Research indicates that merely changing the name on a resume can affect
> the probability of a call back. Although the results could in theory be
> explained by deliberate racism and sexism, they seem more likely to be
> due to subconscious bias.
>
> 2. It is not all e-mail: Apache contributors meet at open source
> conferences, specialty technical conferences, and local gatherings. Not
> being able to participate without fearing discrimination would itself be
> discouraging.
>
> 3. Unintentional insult through stereotypes: This is a bigger risk in
> e-mail than in face-to-face interactions.
>
> I had someone on a mailing list use "try to explain X to someone's
> aunt", where X was a difficult technical point, as an example of
> futility. It invoked a stereotype of older women as lacking computer
> science comprehension. As it happens, I already had two adult nephews
> when I got my PhD in computer science. The writer would probably not
> have said what they did in a live conversation including a grey-haired
> woman.
>
> 4. Misuse of pronouns: If you know someone's preferred pronouns you know
> something about their gender, and subconscious gender discrimination
> becomes possible. If you don't, you may be making them cringe every time
> you refer to them in an e-mail.
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