Hi Paul,
Paul Boddie <p...@boddie.org.uk> writes: > I am sorry for the confusion here. In fact, I wasn't referring to the > FSFE with my remark, but the following crowdfunding campaign promoted > on this mailing list four years ago by a FSFE General Assembly member: > > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2#/ I am also very unhappy with how that went. I backed the campaign as well and got nothing out of it. I need to go back and find the original announcement e-mail on this list, but I sincerely hope there was no advertising *as* as GA member. I would expect this to be clearly marked as a private opinion. If it was not, we need to communicate that better for the future. > Although I wasn't referring to the FSFE, I do wonder whether anyone > else feels that there are certain common themes involved. For > instance, a lack of transparency and a lack of responsiveness to > genuine concerns. People can easily perceive these situations as > "thanks for the money so that we can do our thing", at which point > meaningful engagement ends. That is indeed something we need to watch out for. I personally feel that people who engage with us, either here on the list or in our teams, have access to a lot of information. We usually share it within teams because those teams work on those topics. And if it sounds interesting to everyone, we make it a news item or so. We also work hard to make those ways to engage more visible: That is why we have a redesigned contribute page on our website and why we don't have guest accounts anymore. If someone supports us by dedicating time, they get the same benefits as a supporter and I feel that is a meaningful way to engage. I know this is all anecdotal, but I very much felt that when I started engaging with the FSFE. I very quickly became part of many teams and my opinion is always valued, especially because I tend to disagree. So what I understand from you is that we should do the same for people who don't engage with us in our work, but who give us money. What would you feel is a good way to achieve that? Happy hacking! Florian _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct
