On 27/07/17 14:05, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > >> I remain concerned about defining the reason we want or need these >> followers and then measuring whether that objective is being met. >> >> To give another example: Greece's government successfully mobilized >> enough of their citizens to vote against a bailout in a referendum[1], >> but then the result of the referendum was simply ignored. Getting 1000 >> people in a room or 3,558,450 in a ballot box is potentially a lot of >> wasted effort if nothing actually changes. > > That's actually a good example. Since I live in Greece let me emphasize > something. Yes, in theory the referendum didn't change anything. But for most > of the people who participated (regardless what they voted), this was their > first time they got politically active. They engaged in political > discussions, participated in rallies, challenged mainstream media propaganda, > etc. And most of them continue to be active. So, regardless of what the > government did, everything changed. >
It is worth looking at impact on people's lives, three things come to mind: 1. Youth unemployment - down a little bit, but still obscenely high: https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/youth-unemployment-rate 2. Using the Euro: Greece is still using EUR (no change) 3. Long term solution to debt problem (e.g. redistribution of taxes between Eurozone countries or debt write-off): No, no change Those are the things that matter and the mobilization of 3.5 million people to successfully vote against a bailout hasn't fixed any of those things. In free software advocacy, what are the outcomes we should really be measuring? Regards, Daniel _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
