On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Yves Dorfsman wrote:

> Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>>
>> By comparison to IPv4: you've only got a few external IP addresses, so
>> you've got to map many internal addresses to a single external.  Hence any
>> inbound traffic is destined for an unknown internal machine, and hence p2p
>> is essentially impossible.
>
> s/impossible/difficult/
>
>
>> At present, the printer and toaster are safe from the Internet because they
>> are not reachable from the internet.
>
> You could still firewall them, only letting connections open from the inside
> go through, although people could find your fridge's ip address, they wouldn't
> be able to connect to it. Having said that, I do believe hardening every
> device is the way to go...

this issue can be worked around the same way it's being done today, let 
the fridge open a connection to the companies server, authenticate the 
connection, and then accept commands through that outbound connection.

>> If it did support IPv6, the use case is pretty ... uncommon ... but still
>> nice to know you could if you want to.  If you wanted to, check your ink
>> levels from your mobile device while you're at Staples looking at a good
>> deal on ink.  Or whatever.
>>
>
> Common guys, we're in IT, the fastest moving field, go read Raymond Kurzweil,
> I think the use of the internet is still on the flat slope of the exponential.
> I am convinced that in our lifetime all our home devices will call home when
> they are breaking down. You might have a button on your fridge to authorize
> the technician to get in after he sent you an email, but s/he will want to
> connect to the fridge to run a few diagnosis before s/he comes to your place
> with the right part.
>
> And let's not forget all the new ways of using the 'net that people will come
> up with when they get ipv6 and direct access to their machines.

yep, look at all the new ways of using the 'net that people are comeing up 
with today, all the 'cloud computing' clusters that are being assembled 
from home machines and then the capibilities sold to other people (also 
known as botnets)

face it people, the Internet today is not the nice friendly place it was 
way back when (before my time, but in many ways the attitude still shows)

David Lang
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