On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Richard Chycoski wrote:

> da...@lang.hm wrote:
>> 
>> however, the thought of the corporate IT department _not_ managing 
>> desktop/laptop systems for some part of the company sound very 
>> short-sighted.
>> 
>> yes, they aren't a profit center, and so can't produce cash to put into the 
>> IT group. But neither are the Security, QA, HR, Finance groups, and for 
>> that matter it's hard to quantify the revenue that your executive 
>> management generates. These people all need safe systems to use. In 
>> addition, having someone in one group use a system that hs sending 
>> everything they do to hackers somewhere can cost you a LOT of money (it 
>> usually has little effect, but when it does cost you something it tends to 
>> cost a LOT)
>> 
>> you really do want to make sure that anti-virus and anti-spyware software 
>> is up to data on all systems, and ignoring some systems because they do not 
>> generate revenue saves money now, but is likely to cost a lot later.
>> 
>> David Lang
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
> Unless you start treating the desktops/laptops/smart phones like external 
> appliances. The idea of some of these new methods of connecting is that from 
> the service end, you don't care about antivirus and other such software on 
> the client - that becomes completely the client system's owner's 
> responsibility. You download all of the administration of the client to the 
> owner of the client, and only worry about channeling very specific, well 
> protected resources out your firewall and the client machines simply don't 
> get full network access into your facility. Examples of this are 
> https-wrapped email servers. Your services don't get impacted if the client's 
> machine gets infected with a virus because there is no way for the client to 
> propagate that virus directly to others. You would be wise to implement virus 
> checking for any file or attachment that you accept into the mail service, 
> but the rest is outside of your care.
>
> Now - does this mean that one or more of your employees/contractors/parters 
> could be flooded with viruses that they need to deal with? Yes, it does. It 
> simply means that you no longer need to protect everything in the core from 
> the outside client hosts every time that they connect.

if you don't mind having everything that the employee/contractors/etc 
see or have access to being available to hackers go for it.

but if you do mind, then saying "it doesn't hurt me" isn't really true.

David Lang
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