Classic TV is on in the background. Old shows and movies.. so reference frame of mind.
I'm not sure how serious he really is about this story. It makes for popular press and sells advertising. Playing in the background is "To Dream the Impossible Dream". It helped sell tickets. While people are outraged at what is going on, do a search for the "NSA line eater" and wonder why people are upset about this now. Monitoring of email!user and usenet is part of cyber-urban folklore. Now new and improved with even more data. This too is going to pass and return in 20+ years as yet another outrage on what is being done. Calling upon the engineering community to take back the internet is a little like asking Barney Fife to end gang violence (by himself) in any large city. It's too few with too limited a view and too little direct impact on what can be done. I refer to Barney here because he did have all the best intentions to do the right thing. He just could never really make that happen. If you prefer Harry Callahan, the outcome really is still the same. Small impacts as the rest of the world moves on. Before long things go back to "normal" and you don't even recall why you were upset. These mythical engineers that will make this happen need resources that are going to go beyond that of the current internet scope an capabilites. Again Barney was limited to 1 bullet by the Sheriff and that couldn't be in the gun. While attempting to clean things up, their bosses are going to put demands and restriction on what they can do and still keep their job. While they are working to "get control and clean things up", the people with money are going to those with less "scruples" to provide what is needed to make even more money. Provide new features that people want and don't think about the side effects. Do you want spy free, or faster, more enteraining, cheaper, new? If it's not the NSA and other 3 letter agencies, then it's "people" (note companies are people in the US per the supreme court) like Google, Amazon, Visa, and others collecting as much data as they can about you to find new and innovative ways of selling you stuff. Targetted advertising is nothing new. There was a story recently that when google went off the air for a short time, there was a drop of 40% on all internet traffic. They've got your data and under no obligation to tell you want they are doing with it. To some degree, try NOT to use their services. If you do go elsewhere, are they any better? While the "telephone records" being collected shock people, there probably isn't much more of a collection there than the telephone companies already have. They are just using that data a little differently in to figure out how to create to charging models and new opertunites in selling bandwidth to your cellphone. If you are going to ask for "trust" in the internet, where do you care to start to look for it? --Gene Ed made the following keystrokes: >In the beginning, the Internet was not for commercial use and even before >that personal use was a transgression. Today, obviously there are fewer >rules. > > >On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Guus Snijders <gsnijd...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Op 6 sep. 2013 17:30 schreef "Guus Snijders" <gsnijd...@gmail.com> het >> volgende: >> >> > >> > Op 6 sep. 2013 16:16 schreef "Ski Kacoroski" <kacoro...@gmail.com> het >> volgende: >> > >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Saw this today: >> > > >> > > >> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying >> > > >> > > and I am wondering what folks think of it? >> > >> > Not really impressed, slightly disappointed perhaps. >> >> After reading it again, i must admit to be curious about the stories he'll >> collect/publish. >> My initial reaction had more to do with the tone than the actual content >> of the article. >> >> Mvg, Guus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.lopsa.org >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
