If you really need a tool to do everything, well...you may as well install
socat <http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/doc/socat.html> on all your
systems since it does much more than netcat does and it's much newer.
Seriously though, even though socat is a very cool tool for doing some very
weird things with sockets, there's nothing wrong with good ole telnet. I'd
bet for 99% of the purposes us admins use it for, it's just fine. If you
need something else, time to go open source "shopping". If telnet was such
a problem, your friendly neighborhood linux distro would have gutted it
from their repos by now.
-kz
Kristopher Zentner
kzent...@section6.net | p: 206-457-2770
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Leon Towns-von Stauber <leo...@occam.com>wrote:
> telnet: I'm used to it, and it works.
>
> I use nc when I need it, but otherwise, what does it matter? (Assuming you
> actually have both to choose from.)
>
> - Leon, Crazy Old Sysadmin
>
> On May 7, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Simon Lyall <si...@darkmere.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 May 2013, Derek Balling wrote:
> >> On May 7, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Tracy Reed <tr...@ultraviolet.org> wrote:
> >>> The fact that telnet is insecure in some (now rare) use cases (any
> time you enter a password)
> >>> is just one more reason to let it go.
> >>
> >> If I type my password in an NC connection is it somehow magically
> protected?
> >>
> >> For its most common daily use-case today ("get me to a specific port on
> the other host") telnet is no more or less secure than nc is.
> >
> > The general Linux/Unix environment does evolve over time and commands
> get replaced or become completely obsolete[1]. Netcat is over 17 years
> old[2] and has been in Debian since 1998[3] so you can hardly say it is
> brand new.
> >
> > Sure our fingers get used to typing "top" or "telnet" or "egrep" but
> learning a new command every year or two would hopefully come within the
> area of "try not to be that crazy old Sysadmin looking after the obsolete
> system who will get laid off when it is finally replaced because he doesn't
> know anything newer than Solaris 7"[4]
> >
> > [1] http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix2.1/unixnut/appb_01.htm
> > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netcat
> > [3]
> http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/n/netcat/netcat_1.10-38_changelog
> > [4] We all know one.
> >
> > --
> > Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/
> > "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
> >
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